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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Kevin, unfortunately, not much help coming until the game developers figure out what their doing with these mid week tournaments and games. Not everyone gets them on my team either.

    (To me, if they’re going to only give them to some, they should give them to people who haven’t maxed their crown yet. Once you max your crown, there is less incentive to play it, and, for me at least, the mid week tournament becomes an annoyance taunting me to play.)

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    Beeb, not everyone gets them, so that is just bad, no, make that, just terrible luck! 🙁.

    (Maybe turn your team chat off for the next day and avert your eyes from your teammates player’s crowns—otherwise, it’s like rubbing salt in a wound.

    Good luck in this weekend tournament!)

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    Pickles, the crown points for the mid week tournament are half those of a weekend tournament. But the points all add up—and so, with everything else being equal, they could bump someone to a higher crown level.

    However, missing weekend tournaments is more likely to affect your crown level than being unlucky and not playing in a mid week tournament. This is because it is not super difficult for many people with low brilliance scores to earn a 20 crown point spot. But someone who misses just one weekend tournament, though, would have to place 2nd overall in their next weekend tournament to catch up, which is a lot harder to do. Miss a few tournaments, and then you fall even further behind.

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    My understanding is that they are testing these midweek tournaments and some other mini games. Presumably they target the same test group to see whether they actually play it and for how long etc...over a period of time. To get meaningful data on their games, they would have to target the same people over time. It’s not fair per se to those who don’t get them, but that’s the only thing that makes sense to me.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Peter, some game “freezes” are not game software related but “player software” related whereby an unrecognized word has not been solved yet.

    In a case like your’s at a low level, there is likely an unsolved “bonus” word (a separate word from the main puzzle with each letter indicated by a coin or ‘c’). Solve that word and you’ll be on your way.

    At higher levels, the unrecognized word or words is usually due to low contrast between the letter tiles and the background picture (ie a white letter tile on a white background). You have to look really hard on some levels. The last unsolved word in a puzzle should have the letter boxes enhanced by black outlines. If you don’t see those black outlines, there may be more than one unsolved word.

    The other situations described below are different and appear to be software related. I’ve had issues with the game quickly shutting down on me whenever I opened the app. The only thing that worked for me was to power off my phone completely and “reset” things by powering back up. I don’t know enough about computers to explain freezes after updates (? Memory issues, ? Conflict with operating system settings,..,I don’t know). For a particular software related issue, I would contact support directly through “Send us a message” on the main support page—hopefully they can work through the problem. (These forums here are for players—the game developers aren’t reading these that’s why no one is acting on the problems mentioned here.)

    Have fun, Peter!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Team “Unity” (green & yellow shield with tree) currently has room for 5 players.

    TEAM STATS:
    Team Brillance: 14.8 million
    Team helps (last week): 1000+
    Best weekend tournament score: 110k
    Number of players with top summer crown: 7
    Minimum Brillance to join: 50k
    Join type: Anyone

    We are a mixed team ranging from competitive to easy going players spread over at least 3 continents and multiple time zones. It’s all good! We like to win (like winning this past weekend), but it’s not the end of the world if we don’t. There is no weekend tournament minimum score other than at least trying to play; so just do what you can and have fun. Consider joining if you enjoy playing in the weekend tournament on a supportive and encouraging team. Chat is optional, but without it, you’ll be missing half the fun!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    For teams posting ads here, you may want to be more specific about your team (ie include description of team flag) since many teams have the same name (ie 5 teams named popcorn 🍿)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Maya, presumably you need to be off a team first.

    Then, according to the FAQ answer

    “Touch the team icon. Then name your team in the top box. Then touch the create button.”

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. I can’t say for certain because I read this on another thread, but if a player does not play at all (0 points) they don’t get any winnings. Any points will qualify for a split of any team winnings.

    Regardless of the number of teammates playing or number of players on the team, any winnings are divided by 50.

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    Nothing magical to it—just ask your team leader; only the team leader can boot players

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    Freyja, team “unity”, yellow/green with tree, average team with a mixed group of at least 5-7 players who’ve maxed their summer crowns and a good group of friendly players from all over; have won tournaments (best score 110k, team brillance almost 15 million),—currently leading this weekend; currently have 5 spots. We’re an open team, so act fast. Only restriction is 50k min to join. If you don’t play regularly (like 3-4 weeks of inactivity,) you might get the boot; otherwise happy go lucky type team.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    For players looking to join a team, I just posted some tips on how to stay on a team.

    Search under: “10 ways not to get BOOTED from a team”.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Go Paul go 🇨🇦!
    😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Red mountain pass, the options are there for you finding a team. You obviously like telling stories and need an outlet for your memories. The game chat and this particular forum topic (players looking for teams) are not ideal for that.

    Here are my suggestions:

    Join a team to have fun playing in tournaments if you still wish.

    Consider telling your stories in another forum, either create yonevourself just for telling your stories (ie “post an idea”, call it “red mountain pass stories” or something) or elsewhere on other social media platforms like Facebook if so inclined.

    That’s all I have to offer you—good luck!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Red mountain pass, thanks for the interesting background on the name.

    Abby recommended a few teams for you—“much ado” currently has 48/ 50 players and a minimum brilliance of > 5000 which you have. That sounds like a good recommendation. Acceptance is by request—so give them a shout.

    (Ycheat has a higher minimum brilliance of 50000)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Red mountain pass, the team I’m on is full now but otherwise open to anyone. If you search team names, you will find lots of teams who have lots of open spots and don’t require a minimum brilliance.

    Type in a search word related to something you like or a place you like, and see if there is a team needing players.

    For example, since you’re older, searching under “old”—there is currently a team “old hippies” with only 37/50 players open to anyone; searching under “oldi”—there is currently a team “golden oldies” with only 41/50 players open to anyone.

    (Sorry, nothing came up searching “red mountain”.)

    Good luck!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Red mountain pass, okGary, now I’m the one who needs sharpening! It’s not there because you’re currently not on a team, duh. Mystery solved.

    Again, good luck—I have to go out to the back shed now and sharpen my brain 🧠.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Ironically spelling autocorrect got me: that should be “distraction” not “destruction”, 🙄

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    Red mountain pass, sorry for the confusion. I and Janice are referring to the chat button just above the notifications button in the settings menu (chat: yes. Notifications: no). I was just trying to clarify what she meant by “chat on”.

    Teams aren’t for everyone, but it doesn’t help that you had some bad experiences. You can still play in individual weekend tournaments whenever you want on your own schedule.

    Regardless whether you’re dullest or sharpest knife in the drawer, I do think the game helps keep one mentally active by solving puzzles and helps with spelling, not that spelling really matters anymore in this world of autocorrections. It can also be a destruction from the troubles around us.

    Anyway, I was just trying to help you in your journey; best wishes whatever you decide—you’re never too old to have fun!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Red mountain pass, I think Janice is referring to turning the chat button on in your Wordscapes settings menu within the game (from your description, you already have this turned on if you’ve been chatting to people on teams)—Janice is implying they have a very social team who like to chat. This has nothing to do with Wordscapes notifications on your phone which you can leave off. Best of luck to you Gary in staying safe, and I hope you find a team.

    (Not all teams require a minimum; maybe try joining a team that interests you—then refer them to this forum topic where they can review your “gaming resume”; if it is not a good mutual fit for you and the team, then YOU leave the team. That way you won’t be banned forever from rejoining that team in the future.)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Pctux, this is a universal problem, but it is better addressed in the “general chat” forum (this space is intended for those players who want to advertise themselves to teams).

    PS if you find a good solution, let everyone know in the general chat section. Cheers.

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    John Lucas, how am I defending the use of cheat sites. But every big jump in score is not due to someone using a cheat site. How exactly do you differentiate between a really fast player and someone copying words manually from a cheat site (apart from maturity), though? If both are being entered manually, it would be difficult. The words speeds could be similar. Just to be clear, 40 levels in 5 minutes would not be possible even using a cheat site if entered manually—you have to factor in the time for animations—so what you describe is something different than someone mindlessly copying words like a data entry clerk. 40 levels in 5 minutes is not even possible using just unlimited hints alone either. And to say a person wouldn’t make mistakes copying is probably not true. Regardless, how do you stop someone copying from a site (or even their own word list)? How do you take down those sites? I don’t think you can realistically.

    People fun say they have software to detect cheating. Large word dumps from playing offline are more readily detected and dealt with. That is more like the situation you describe. Computer manipulation of some sort could also be detected similarly by a big enough jump in score. Of course, this is the game maker’s responsibility to look into. It is also an ongoing issue that is not new, but I don’t see any changes from the game maker to fix it.

    Yeah, people using cheat sites or computer manipulation is not fair and people shouldn’t do it. But I think if there was an easy solution it would’ve been implemented by now. In my experience, this happens infrequently, that’s why I would just shake my head and move on. (So they laugh when they win—who cares; their attitude at cheating to get want they want is pathetic. I pity them because that cheating attitude eventually catches up to you in life.)

    The game developers are the ones to deal with this, but, realistically, they only will if it becomes a big enough problem for them.

    .

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, there are some really fast players out there, so if they passed you at a rate of 1000 words per hour, they could just be a really fast player. Beyond 1500-2000 words per hour (roughly), they could be using lots of hints/rockets. There is no limits on numbers of hints used in a tournament, so technically it’s not cheating. If that’s how a person “wins” (by using large numbers of hints), it’s a hollow victory at best in my books.

    There’s not much one can do if you’re playing against a really fast player or someone using lots of hints, so just play your own game. If someone is using other means to score that quickly, then I just roll my eyes wondering why.

    I know it may not feel great from your point of view, but, other than being passed by a really fast player, I would have pity for that person if that’s the only way they feel they can “win”.

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    Rach1972, there are so many uncontrolled variables (players with or without ads, different puzzle level, different experience level) that limiting hints could be a problem for some, especially new players. I’ve had a few words where I literally had to almost spell the entire word out using hints because I just couldn’t get it (...it happens sometimes,🙃). I think a better solution might be to penalize your word score for using a hint during tournaments. So if you use a ton of hints, your score is significantly reduced.

    Will that happen? Probably not—they make money selling hints.

    The only money I’ve spent on this game is for removing ads, which I highly recommend just to make your playing experience more enjoyable. Buying hints for winning virtual prizes makes no sense to me. I totally agree—play using your own skills; anything you win or place knowing you did it on your own is more satisfying that way!

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    Anonymous #2, I’m not a moderator, but I like to think I have a moderate point of view. I do share your your view of the game—play for fun; you might win some, you might lose some, but have fun trying.

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    Anonymous, waiting for a different start time is not a cheat. People play in different time zones, and people have lives (believe it or not) outside of Wordscapes. Besides, a 53 hour tournament is like a marathon; sometimes people just want to go for 10k or 5k run instead. Nothing wrong with that, and the game allows for it.

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    Shay, PeopleFun day they have software to detect tournament cheating. I don’t know if they really do, or if they just say that to appease us. I wonder if they actually have caught people, do they give the next player in-line the crown points? I’ve never heard that happening, though. Anything involving computer manipulation to win these tournaments just makes no sense to me—like, why?

    (For those who are new to this game, I’ve posted under “Wordscapes tournament scoring” some basics about tournament scoring and sudden jumps in scoring for reference.)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Thanks Abby, if I can help others a little that great. Don’t put me in a Wordscapes genius category, though—how about: “Wordscapes helper, who has opinions, not always right, but willing to listen” category. Keep having fun everyone by just playing the game the way it was meant to be played!

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    PS. Getting answers from a website, Siri, your uncle Bill, or whatever just defeats the whole point of the game—solving word puzzles to sharpen your mind. It’s like saying I need to exercise to get in shape, then you get a personal trainer (or your uncle Bill) to exercise FOR you! 🙄

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Abby, good question—never tried it myself, I was just responding to AJ Livingstone. Presumably one would ask what word has whatever number of letters, then say what the choices are, and give the letters already in the word.

    Imagine if everyone playing Wordscapes did this all at once—we might crash the internet or at least give Siri a huge headache 🤕.

    I can then just imagine Siri misinterpreting the sound of the letters and giving meaningless answers—that would be more frustrating than just solving the word oneself!

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    AJ Livingstone, think about it—you go to a site to copy hundreds of words for a game where you “win” virtual prizes—who’s the real winner there? Ok, you get better at becoming a data entry clerk—but don’t get paid!!! Really smart. It’s a game—how much fun does one really get doing that?

    So one can use Siri to solve the puzzles for you—ok, this is just more dumbing down of people in general.

    I can’t help bu feel sorry for people like this. Like anything in life, the more you put into it, the more you get out of it. Just play, have fun, and hope people who copy from cheat sites eventually develop a little more confidence in themselves and their own potential for their own benefit.

    (Hope your winter is going well under!)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Me, a high score is based on their rate of scoring and how long they play for. I can score 20000 doing just what you said (not happening, though); someone else (a good player) who plays twice as fast as me will do it in half the time. Top players can approach 1000 words per hour.

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    Infamous, my text was not precise, but I when was referring to offline play in my analogy, I was referring to dumping points at the end of a tournament (that’s what I meant—but I didn’t say so specifically, so I apologize if I led your astray). Obviously, if someone is playing offline in such a way that they’re updating regularly enough that others can track their progress, that is different someone playing offline and dumping all their points at the end. It’s the latter situation that shouldn’t be allowed.

    With respect to the dictionary,...ok, guilty as charged. Of course you’re right, if they have now standardized the dictionary for everyone, then that’s the dictionary you should use. It was a moment of weakness for me as I reminisced of words lost since the last update and I tried to justify their use. ( You would think that the dictionary is an easy enough fix for the game developers—only allow those with the correct dictionary version to play in the tournament, but, as you’ve also pointed out, this is a money thing for them so more players not less is want they want.)

    Anyway, everything else is small potatoes that don’t need to be fretted over. All the inequities of this game are not impediments to having fun, but the large point dump from offline play takes the fun out of a tournament for anyone. That is my take on it.

    PS. Tippyshoes is my older brother; I’ll tell him you said hello. 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Shinelle, I hate to tarnish your idea of Tippytoes, but, shamefully, I have to admit that I routinely get stumped by the word “tree” in many puzzles 🙄.

    Enough said.

    Keep having fun!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Infamous, I like and respect the way you think.

    I totally agree about what you said about fair play and this game—it’s not a fair game on so many levels, but it is what is and we still play because...well, it’s still fun and entertaining. We tolerate the fair play imbalances and accept most of them as just part of the game. Because of these imbalances and variables (ADs vs no ads; free hints vs paid hints vs no hints; players playing on different levels; etc...) I tend not to view any of these imbalances as cheating.

    The dictionary example is a difficult one for me, though. Because the game developers have standardized the dictionary, then, like the offline issue, we should all be using the same one. But I sympathize with those who may have kept an older version for the richness of the vocabulary. Because for them, the enjoyment of the game is finding all the additional bonus words which is intellectually more stimulating. Sure, one could argue, the additional coins from finding bonus words gives them potentially more free hints, and the player can score higher per puzzle. Both are true, but, I doubt a player interested in finding all those bonus words is using a lot of coins to buy hints. The extra points per round and time saved by having fewer animations is a legitimate advantage, but it is dwarfed by the advantage no ads gives a player or the dumping of a large unexpected point score at the end of a game by playing offline.

    So, these fair and unfair imbalances are all relative. Going back to race analogy, I would view no ads, the dictionary, and the hints like a racer who has the best running shoes (like those Nike ones), the best coaches, and the best training. Some of their competitors in the race may be barefoot, coached by their uncle, and can only train part time because they work 3 jobs. They both run the same race. Chances are the the better trained racer with the best equipment will win—is it fair, no; is it cheating, though? But tripping your opponent who was winning near the end of the race (my analogy for the offline play or computer hacking with unlimited hints), I would say to both unfair and cheating. (This analogy sounds a lot like the Olympics—some countries have the best of everything and compete others who don’t, yet we still accept the results.)

    Infamous, you get high marks in my book for changing the way you play because others think it’s cheating.

    You also put things in the proper perspective: keep having fun, forget any bad experiences, and don’t let it consume you. Can’t argue with that!!!!!!

    Thanks again for the discussion

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Infamous, thanks for the info. When I first played, offline play was allowed for everyone so I did play offline for the same reasons—to save on data. I also never looked at it as cheating because it was available to everyone. But its a little different now if only a minority of players can do it. At least if you let others see your rate of play at say <100 words or stars I wouldn’t look at it as cheating either (you said 100 levels; I not sure if you meant 100 stars or words because 100 levels would be the equivalent of at least 1000-2000 words which is what people are complaining about).

    I’m contrast, others who probably don’t have ads and also use that as a stealth technique for the very end of a tournament to catch others off guard—-sorry, but you got to call a spade a spade, it’s cheating when only a select few have that edge and purposely take advantage of it.

    I look at this as just a fun game, too. Part of the fun the tournament is that last 1-2 hours when you’re neck and neck with someone else. If you can’t see why someone who then jumps ahead out of nowhere with 500 points makes this game not as fun, then maybe no one ever knocked all the checker pieces off the board on your last move when you were about to win, or maybe no one ever tripped you 5 metres from the finish line of a race you were about to win only to have you finish second, etc... Yeah, it’s just a game playing for virtual prizes. But that adrenaline kick you feel in a close game near the end is real—the excitement you feel when you win on the last puzzle is real, and the disappointment you feel when you lose on the last puzzle is also real. Yeah, no one is solving the world’s problems playing this game—but all games have an element of fair play or no one would want to play them if you knew the outcome was rigged.

    Infamous, if you like playing this game even if it is just for fun, just pay the nominal fee to get rid of the ads. its a one time fee and only a few dollars (a couple cups of coffee). (I’m cheap—so if I tell you to it’s worth the couple of bucks, it’s worth the couple of bucks!!!) I waited months before I finally did, but I wish I had done it sooner because the whole experience is just better. Your speed improves at least 25-50% and you don’t see the annoying banners below the puzzle or the ad after the puzzle. The game is definitely funner without the ads, regardless if you’re a casual player or competitive player.

    Other than that one time fee, you don’t have to spend money on this game to enjoy it or to do well in tournaments.

    I guess I’m hooked on this game and really enjoy it. I don’t take it seriously in the sense that I would have a tantrum when I lose etc..but I want to help others get as much out of this game as I do—that’s all I’m trying to do here—help people understand what is and isn’t fair play/cheating if I can.

    Keep having fun, Infamous, and thanks again for the insight.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    To clarify something the game people told me earlier about a sudden jump in score. They said:

    “Some devices may not be updated, therefore offline play is still an option.”

    I asked again about this, and this is what they said:

    “If you are offline now. The points don't count for any players.”

    So, my conclusion is sudden jumps in score are most likely due to the use of hints, either ethically or illegally obtained.

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    SwedishChef, that seems to make the most sense—hacking to get unlimited hints and then just letting it go. I didn’t have a billion hints to play with—just a few orders of magnitude less with 49—but I was surprised by how quickly it solved the puzzle.

    Silverstar also drew attention to player “lol” on a “team” of 1 called “Colo-yellow spg” that has over 5 billion brillance. This is also a hack of some sort—the brilliance was not obtained through tournament play (you’ll notice the relatively small crown relative to the brilliance—there’s an analogy there but I won’t go further).

    So, just to clarify what I said about using hints to solve puzzles being part of the game—only, of course, if one gets those hints earnestly—through team helps, a daily prize, or through paying for them. Otherwise, if one steals them through computer hacking, the use of those stolen hints is cheating.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Rach1972, thanks for that insight. It seems the good players are in that range of 1000 words (stars) per hour—maybe the maximum being <1500 (only limited data for this though). So, I agree, to score close to 2000 on average presumably is using a lot of extras.

    As a test, I tried one puzzle using just hints in rapid succession (no rockets). The puzzle had 49 letters and 16 words—it took roughly 20 seconds to complete including the animation setting up the next puzzle. That 7000 words in 3 hours works out to roughly 2333 words per hour or 39 words per minute. So it is plausible a fast player also using a ton of hints might approach that score.

    However, that was 49 hints for just 16 words—so, to imagine someone doing this over multiple levels where the average ratio of letters to words is say at least 4 would require 20000-30000 hints to get 7000 words. Even if you say the player solved half the words (which would definitely slow the speed down), that is 10000-15000 hints. If they were using acquired coins (100 coins per hint), that would use 1 million-1.5 million coins!!!!!! One could be throwing in rockets, too, but they come with an animation that doesn’t make them necessarily faster.

    It is really hard to imagine this being possible or sustainable over an extended period of time (a few hours) unless one has an unlimited arsenal of hints.

    So, why?

    I don’t know. Maybe these people are super competitive and have to win at all costs; maybe these people just like messing with other people and causing tournament havoc because they can; maybe, maybe, maybe—does it matter in the end. The result is they wreck a tournament for at least 3 other people who would have placed.

    ....but technically speaking, if they are using hints it is not cheating since the game allows for that. Remember, the game developers make their money selling hint packages, so they are unlikely to limit them in a tournament. And where do you draw the line with hints? Personally, I don’t use hints at all now (that is why i didn’t mind wasting 49 of them on a silly test). So that person who beat me this weekend with that sudden surge in their points while I struggle for minutes on a word (“undo” 🙄) did they cheat me out of victory? (No!).

    Anyway—this is just a game; the hints and rockets make it more entertaining. I really can’t see them limiting hints in tournaments so we have to play accordingly. Fortunately, these really extreme point surges (>1500 words per hour) are uncommon, but that doesn’t make them any less discouraging for those affected.

    If they didn’t use hints and manipulated the score some other way, well, that’s just cheating! The only ones presumably who can sort that out are the game developers.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Cheryl, what was the rate of scoring, over what time period, and the final scores?

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    This is the explanation given by the game developers for a score that jumps quickly:

    “Some devices may not be updated, therefore offline play is still an option. Also, some players may purchase a significant amount of in-app items that help them advance quickly. That is most often the case when a score jumps quickly.”

    So, this just complicates things in sorting out a sudden jump in score. A sudden jump of 500 points when a player’s score hadn’t moved for an hour could just be an update in the scoring.

    7000 points in 3 hours—I don’t know still; even if one just used hints and rockets, the rockets go 5 letters at a time with animations, I don’t know what the maximum scoring rate is. That score though averages to close to 40 words per minute—I suppose it’s plausible using maximum assists with rockets and hints, maybe? 🤔

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    Ghost, bre, & Bret; this is what I was told by PeoleFun:

    “We will look into the issue. We have cheat detection for tournaments. If a player is found to be cheating, they will be removed and receive no prize. Thanks for reporting it.”

    This was in response to a player with 500,000,000 brillance (not possible, needless to say).

    Ghost, those big jumps in score are suspicious. 7000 points in 3 hours goes beyond credible. Hopefully, the game cheat filters pick it up. I highly recommend you report this player to people fun for further assessment (send an email under “send us a message” on the main support page).

    I sometimes wonder if problems with internet connectivity account for sudden jumps in scoring—but what you describe sounds extreme and deserves further investigation.

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    Anonymous, I think you’re probably right—but I did not want to make that assumption though since he clearly says level and each puzzle is clearly labelled as “Level”.

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    Eric hunt, how on earth are you averaging 200-250 per level—puzzle words vary from 5-10 words to maybe 20-30 words. So you’re getting 200+ bonus words on average per puzzle? Really? On puzzles with no 3 letter words? Do you use lists of words and just plug away? Do you do this from memory? I’m not here to judge, just to trying and understand this because these numbers (200-250 words per level) are so far outside my experience.

    Regardless, your rate of scoring is totally believable.

    The 17000 score is reasonable and your rate of scoring 1200-1800 words per hour is also within a top player (from what I infer from others—I’m not in that category).

    From your experience, what is the maximum words per hour at this game?

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    Anonymous, the midweek tournament is random—not all players get it and it doesn’t show up every week (so no one is taking advantage so to speak). It will just appear midweek for some players. For those who get it, they can augment their crown points and coins, but the rewards are half those of a weekend tournament. (Since the team format started, I’ve had a midweek tournament appear 2 times.)

    Some other games get offered midweek, too, but again, these are random and not everyone gets them.

    My understanding is that this is the game developer testing new formats on us.

    So, if you get one, you’re lucky, that’s all.

    Yeah, in the grand scheme of things, it is not fair since not everyone gets it. But there are potentially a lot of things “not fair” in this game (ie. not everyone plays without ads, not everyone has hints, not everyone gets free hints from a team, not everyone can afford to buy hint packages, not everyone plays the same level with same words during a tournament, etc.,.). By the sound of how well you play, though, I think you’re managing ok even without the midweek perk.

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    PPS. Ok, this was a typo, I really do know how to divide 500 into 2000—it should be “4 increments of 500”.

    Alas, my math credibility is shot...I think that’s the sound of the bell for my remedial math class again 🙄

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    PS I don’t know if a sudden jump by 2000 points after no activity for a while is a deliberate cheat or a possible computer glitch with internet connectivity and updating of the leader board. Regardless, the player presumably was playing during that time of “inactivity” and earned the points. Again, unless one knows more details of that player’s situation, I’d be wary of labelling it as outright cheating.

    In contrast, if a player’s score increases by 100’s or 1000’s of points repeatedly over a short duration (ie that same 2000 points was earned in 30 minutes with 5 increments of 500), that doesn’t seem plausible at all and would need investigating.

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    Anonymous, thanks for the detailed explanation; this is a great example of how we all shouldn’t rush to judgement. I’m in awe of your words per hour and although I’ll never achieve that, there are people such as yourself who do.

    The most important part of your explanation is the rate of play. The 11k achieved over 28 hours.

    I would definitely be concerned if that 11k occurred in 2-3 hours or less, though, which is NOT the case here.

    Thanks again for the explanation; I think that helps us all understand where the boundaries are between solid fast gaming and cheating.

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    The main usefulness of this forum is to at least get an understanding of what is and isn’t possible in this game. I don’t have all the answers, and I defer to more experienced players.

    I do know that some situations appear to be cheating when they are not. An experienced player can usually tell if something is not right. Just looking at an individual score out of context does not tell the whole story unless it is too extreme—but what is defined as extreme depends on your experience with the game.

    The best objective assessment is the real time rate of scoring in a tournament. The puzzles have to be solved one after the other. The puzzles’ point scores vary from one to the next. Again, if someone is repeatedly scoring >50 points on EVERY puzzle, then that’s just not possible in this game (if it is, someone explain it to me then). That requires looking at the player’s real time change in score from puzzle to puzzle based on the leader board.

    I just think we have to be careful before we start labelling everyone with a high score as a cheat—again, the rate of point scoring is the best way to do this.

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    Anonymous, the game people at People Fun don’t read these forums.

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    Peter, not every big jump in scoring is a cheat. 11000 points over what period of time? If it’s 12 hours, that is plausible (some players can score over 1000 words per hour). Factor in the use of stored up hints, rockets, and it is plausible. (Also remember, your night is someone else’s day in this world.)

    I don’t know what the maximum words per hour is, but practically speaking it must be less than 1500 words per hour and probably less than that for any extended period of time (ie over a few days, probably less than 1000 words per hour for the tournament.). Some people are just fast. (If you are playing with ads still, people without ads are almost twice as fast)

    I agree, the score raises eyebrows. If large scores (I don’t know what the maximum point score for a puzzle is when one factors in bonus words, but from my experience, it is less than 50 points; so for sure > 100 points) just suddenly appear from that player if you are following the leader board closely then there is definitely something going on.

    PS. Do you know if the player in question has a degree in computer science or a diploma from the school of computer hacks? 🤔

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    Deborah, not sure what happened there—can you give more details? The team helps aren’t connected to your tournament star points, and I’m don’t know how a teammate could alter your score.

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    ...to be followed by my remedial English class...

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    Sorry to disappoint Manco, but you and your team is way beyond my level of play(I’m a 400-500 wph player).

    Now if you excuse me, I have a remedial basic math class to attend...

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    Craig—thanks!!! I got lost in all the zeros—(I originally came up with 27 years, but screwed up when I rechecked my answer—should have then triple checked the answer.

    Anyway, what I was also going to say when I first calculated the 27 years is: how old is the internet? We’re the game developers even born then? Was the player playing non stop straight out of the womb? Etc..,)

    Bottom line, these scores are so outside the norm that some sort of manipulation is at work.

    Thanks for double checking the math.

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    Silverstar, hard not to draw that conclusion either way, cheating or no cheating.

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    A08, I realized I misinterpreted the numbers—100000 stars for a tournament; 1 billion brillance player brillance overall (I misinterpreted the latter as being for the tournament—which you would only know if you were tracking their brillance before and after the tournament).

    Regardless, assume the 1 billion brillance is correct and 100000 stars is correct. Let’s say the 100000 stars is their “average” score for a 3 day period. That roughly corresponds to. 300000 brillance (roughly a 3:1 relationship between brillance and words). So, that averages to about 100000 brillance per day. If they have an overall brillance of 1 billion, it would take roughly 1000 days to achieve—or put another way—2.7 years.

    How long has this game been around? Maybe the time is correct, but they would have to have been playing everyday at that pace for the last 2.7 years.

    Let’s assume that is true... then... whoever you are, you need help!!!! Let them win the weekend tournament, because they are so addicted to this game they are playing while getting up in the morning, while brushing their teeth (maybe they have teeth?), while eating, while taking bathroom breaks (okay, I’m guilty there once or twice), while going to bed, while in bed, while getting up in the morning...repeat for 2.7 years!!!!!!

    So is it still plausible—no.

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    A08, anonymous, Katz: a billion brillance and 100000 stars is a total aberration

    The 100000 stars averages to 1886 words per hour over 53 hours—very difficult to achieve even as a maximum score. The best player on our team is under 900 words per hour; Mugsy Bar mentions 1600 words per hour range. But this 1886 is an average score—seems very, extreme.

    But this whole scoring falls apart with the billion brillance. That brillance score is totally discordant with the star score making this a total aberration. Even if A08 made a typo and meant a million brillance—that is still a discordant brillance score compared to the star count.

    So, if this score really occurred, the score is such an aberration on so many levels that it is just not plausible without some sort of cheat/computer hack/manipulation.

    PS. It wasn’t me who got that score since I keep getting stuck on the word ”tree”—🙄

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    A08, if true, don’t know how, but one can safely assume it’s a computer hack/manipulation/obvious cheat—their fingers weren’t exactly swiping letters while they enjoyed the background music and imagery but up to more nefarious deeds!!!

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    Anonymous, thanks for the tip. My goal, though, is to play these tournaments and win without hints. I only use hints now as a last resort.

    PS the internet connection is better now; that’s just how it was when I started. All is good now.

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    Anonymous (sane one, insane one, I just don’t know anymore—I’m going insane), I just started playing the game and could play offline. That’s all there is to it.

    You kind of have to just go with the flow with this game because the the instructions are fleeting. Most of what I know about the game comes from exploring it with trial and error. Not so much to gain advantage, but to just figure out what the heck is going on.

    This game is kind of the Wild West when it comes to rules.

    Critical thinking and rational discussion is not personal; people can always agree to disagree. It never hurts to try and see things from the other person’s perspective.

    Good luck (without manipulations of course) with your your tournaments 😊

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    Anonymous (the sane one), look, I agree and disagree.

    Agree: offline play is not enabled now, so any use (however obtained) is an unfair advantage and cheating

    Disagree: months ago offline mode allowed, therefore part of the game, therefore necessary to take into account with game strategy, therefore not cheating

    BUT I totally agree it used to the make game strategy all over the place

    When offline play was allowed, If one CHOSE not to get an insurmountable lead based in words per hour and NOT take into account that someone with no scoring on the leaderboard all day could dump 3000 points in the last minute—then you got beat. That other person STILL earned those 3000 points over the course of the day, so it was not cheating.

    Look, I feel your pain, man. I used to get burned too, but I tried to factor that uncertainty into my game strategy. Looking back, most of the point fluctuations would be a couple hundred points at a time as people went into and out of offline play if they were using it. The extreme case you describe did not happen often—but I see if you got burned that way enough to email them it would be a thorn in your side. Honestly, offline play for me was a very practical use of an expensive and slow internet connection.

    Again, any offline play is by manipulation now so it is therefore cheating.

    But the cheating concept is somewhat relative—someone with unlimited money buys unlimited rockets and blasts their way hundreds of points in the last hour—not cheating technically since there is no hint limit. People on teams with free team hints playing against solo players with no hints starting out—not cheating technically. I play with no hints, so if I’m playing you going back and forth at a certain predictable pace and you then use saved up rockets/hints on the last couple puzzles to win—did you cheat? (No, it’s part of the rules)

    Conclusion, if the game allows it in the rules it is not cheating.

    Thanks for the discussion and keep having fun playing the game, Anonymous (the sane one)

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    Anonymous, okay.

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    Anonymous, the game strategy when airplane mode was allowed was a little different. You had to assess the other players rate of play early on. Then, if they did not put points in the board for a while, you had to decide was it because they were in airplane mode or just not playing. If you thought airplane mode, then you had to make sure you had enough points to cover the time they didn’t put points down based on your estimate of opponents words per hour. Again, this was very unpredictable, but it was not cheating—because the rules were the same for everyone.

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    Anonymous, the person playing in airplane mode when it was allowed is not a crook because they still had to solve the puzzles. When everyone is able to do this, it is not cheating.

    When one used to play that way, you never knew whether your score was good enough—so it made for unpredictable game play. And yes, it came down to the last tally of the scores. So the leaderboard during the game was indeed somewhat meaningless.

    I totally agree it is better not allowing that now for more predictable game play.

    We really are on the same page here.

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    Anonymous, maybe I wasn’t clear. When I first started playing the game, you could play offline. That’s how the game was. It was not cheating. It was a practical thing—it allowed one to still enjoy the game when you couldn’t be in a wifi spot.

    Then they changed it so you couldn’t because of what I said. Which is fine. Again, if everyone plays by the same rules it’s not cheating. If they allow offline play for everyone—it’s not cheating.

    I tried it just now to test whether what Larry van pelt said was true, because my understanding was you couldn’t. (I never play offline now so I have no idea whether what he says is currently true)

    I tried one round as a test and my score didn’t change—so I lose those points. I had to verify that first before I tell someone else that they might, for whatever software glitch or other, may be playing with an advantage.

    Anonymous, the game developers evolved the game as they how the airplane mode was being
    used.

    Just curious, were you playing then when it was allowed? Like I said, that’s when I started and that’s just how the game was back then. It was not cheating at the time, but, like you say, wasn’t logical for the leaderboard. Give the developers credit for improving the game for all those reasons.

    So chill my friend—for your info, I played and won my last tournament with no hints, just playing the game. I play because I enjoy solving the puzzles and get the greatest satisfaction when I can do it without hints.

    PS I have also not used a hint yet this weekend either.

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    PS. I just played offline and my tournament score never changed. Larry van pelt, if you are truly able to do this still, the I think you do have an unfair advantage since not everyone can. If you have any integrity, knowing this now, you won’t play that way.

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    Larry van pelt, the game used to allow that, but I think they fixed that now. When it was allowed, I never considered it cheating because everyone could do it. Regardless of whether you were playing online or offline, you still had to solve the puzzles. Scores used to fluctuate widely and were more unpredictable—but one adapted. I would play that way when I was away from wifi so I wouldn’t use my data.

    Too many players got burned by people literally on a long airplane trip playing for hours offline and then coming online out of nowhere with thousands of points.

    Now that they have fixed it (which is a good idea—but there goes my data!), any sudden jump of hundreds of points in a minute is a data dump of some kind and should be considered cheating until proven otherwise.

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    1. Play in the weekend tournament
    2. Play in the weekend tournament
    3. Play in the weekend tournament

    Ok, these are obvious but really can’t be stressed enough. Teams were created for the weekend tournament, so if you’re not contributing to your team score, that can be a problem. How strict team leaders are with this varies, but you may want to start packing your bags if you haven’t played in 3 weeks or more!

    4. Follow the team rules

    Again, fairly obvious. If the team has set rules like minimum tournament scores or helps, then you should try to reach those. If not, don’t forget to pack the toothbrush when you go.

    5. Turn the chat on

    Why turn on the chat? You’re just there to play, right? Well, sometimes teams try to coordinate team strategy and tournament start times. You can be left out of the loop if you don’t pay attention. And if you’re the ONLY one on your team not paying attention, it just makes it that much easier to send you on your way.

    6. Chat to your teammates

    Like most things in life, good communication can solve a lot of problems. Maybe you need to take a break from playing, go on vacation, or to change phones and might not be playing regularly. Letting the team leader know about your situation should help—assuming of course your team leader also uses the chat!

    7. Help your teammates

    Responding to teammate help requests shows you’re a team player willing to help others. If you never help and then also miss a few weeks of play, well, then, you may be punching a one way ticket off the team.

    8. Be nice

    Does this need explaining? ALWAYS being negative or saying nasty things about others on your team just creates a toxic atmosphere for everyone. Again, like everything else in life, there are going to be ups and downs; problems are bound to arise amongst teammates. Hopefully, they get resolved civilly. But if you’re that one person always behind it, again, you’re just putting a target on your back to give you the boot.

    9. Create your own team

    If you don’t like other team rules, start your own team. You then become the team leader calling the shots; no one else can boot you from the team (unless they change the rules). Hopefully you can find similar likeminded individuals for your new team, but it is not always easy starting from scratch.

    10. Score 30,000 points in a weekend tournament

    To me, this should guarantee your team status for life! 😊

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    The game developers expect 50 players per team, and to encourage this, the game developers split the winnings by 50. Using this rationale, the game developers are not going to then split the winnings differently.

    If your team is able to earn coins with just 18 players that’s great. But if you don’t want to work as hard, you’re better off adding more active players to your team.

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    It took me 6 months to get 500,000 brillance. Players at least twice as fast as me playing for a few years could certainly achieve that brillance.

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    Kathy, since you can only be on one team at a time, if you are currently on a team, then you have to leave that team first (in the myteam tab, tap the “info” and then the “leave” buttons to leave).

    When you are not on a team, touch the “team” icon, enter your team name, and then touch the “create” button.

    Since teams can share the same name, you may want to give some thought to a team name beforehand so it will both represent what you stand for and stand out amongst the other teams. It makes recruiting new players easier if your team is the only team (or one of only a few teams( that pop up when people search team names.

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    Anonymous, sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for. I also thought these mid week tournaments were a good thing—a chance to bump your crown points (the points are half those of the weekend tournament, though). So, I tried it when i happened to get one. Now, I seem to keep getting them the last couple of weeks—but I don’t have the time or interest to play it every mid week.

    So when I open the app to check the team chat, there the midweek tournament sits, waiting to be played, almost taunting me. I know if I even try one puzzle, it will suck me in for a night of playing.

    I can go offline, but in the back of my mind—I know it’s waiting for me...like opening a bag of chips or a box of chocolates; yeah, I’ll just have 1—and we all know how that ends!

    If the midweek tournament is meant to test our self control—I definitely fail.

    PS. I also got this crazy slot machine like thing many weeks ago where for 1000 coins it would “randomly” give you some combination of coins, hints, bullseyes, and rockets. It appeared on the screen like a gift 🎁 icon—but it was no gift. It really was like a slot machine. Over the course of 4-5 hours it would appear on the home screen, then disappear, then reappear...kinda creepy

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    Tina, the game developers are currently testing the mid week tournament and other types of mini games, that is why not everyone gets them at this point.

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    Regardless of the number of people on the team or how many actually play, the winnings are divided by 50.

    I’ve read this elsewhere in the forums, so I can not verify how true it is, but if players aren’t active at all in the tournament (ie 0 points), they don’t get any winnings. But getting just 1 point will qualify them for a share of the winnings.

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    Connect to the internet, either through Wifi or using data.

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    Angie, the rockets (looks like a firework) blast 5 letters randomly across remaining unsolved letters.

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    I doubt that will happen. Already in the individual star tournament you have people with difference brillance levels on different puzzle levels all playing against one another. How fair is that? One would think the game developers would group the 100 players by the puzzle level but they don’t. The game developers have kept the regulations to a minimum and haven’t made any effort to make the individual tournaments equitable, so don’t hold your breath for the team tournament.

    Besides, although a team may have 50 players, probably only a percentage of those will actually contribute points on any given weekend. For my team, I’d say it’s 60%. So if you have a solid group of 22 players all playing, you could certainly challenge my team, which I think is an average team.

    If you want to stay with a small team, then just make sure everyone plays and you’re strategic. If you find your team never earns coins with the players you have and winning those coins is that important for your team, then your best option is to merge with another likeminded small to medium size team to get more players overall.

    I’m sure your team is not alone; try advertising in “TEAMS looking for players” and “PLAYERS looking for teams” either for another team to merge with and/or additional players. Good luck!

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    30k right on the nose is a mic drop moment! Amazing Ruffian!!!!

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    Kamuela, chat doesn’t have to be on for one to request or receive help, it just looks a lot less personal (the help bars show up on blank screen where the chat normally would be)

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    Silverstar, sorry to hear about the toe—I’ll watch where I step. Just like a simple 3 letter word can sometimes stop us in our tracks in this game (ok, stop me at least), a small affliction to a toe or tooth can also sometimes do the same in real life. Take it easy—a little ice and a compress (made of black satin of course) might help.

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    (Silverstar, your response to roselynnelopez wasn’t there when I first replied, otherwise I wouldn’t have posted. Didn’t mean to step on your toes—especially after how proficient you’ve become using them to solve puzzles! 😏)

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    roselynnelopez, teams may use the chat to strategize and synchronize team play. If you don’t have the chat on, you’re then out of the loop.

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    Frostwood, You guys/gals on Plantagenet have a great team—I still remember the whopping you gave us weeks back.

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    Gwen, there was a similar “incident” weeks ago. It may have had something to do with time zones where the player was playing—they had a 1 hour head start on everyone else through no fault of their own. How they played the rest of the tournament should tell you if there is anything else to this. Not everything is cheating (I give some scenarios of scoring in “Wordscapes tournament scoring” for reference; there is also a Wordscapes cheating forum)

    The game developers also supposedly have software to detect cheating.

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    Lark, expanding on what Cable said, although you may not find this game challenging, there are people who do for a variety of reasons that include: young people without the vocabulary, people (young or old) with poor memories, people with cognitive deficits, people with visual impairment, and people just learning the language. None of these reasons imply anything about a person’s brillance (or game brillance).

    PS. Cable, I hope Harvard Medical school is not involved in this game—the dumbing down of the dictionary would not make them look very good if that was the case!

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    PPS Lark, if you just happen to actually be a Harvard medical student, then stop playing this game and start studying. I wouldn’t want you perpetuating medical myths in the future like some M.D.’s do because they were too busy playing computer games rather than studying

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    Lark, you’re confusing game “brillance” with brillance. Game brilliance only reflects a player’s experience with the game. Having a minimum game brillance helps a team tell whether the player has at least played to a certain level. Some teams want as many players as possible playing in the weekend tournament, so, they use game brillance as a gauge of whether that player has been playing a lot. It is a flawed number because it doesn’t tell one the length of time it took to get that score. A better gauge of tournament play is crown status, but that has its own limitations early on in the crown season.

    I thought the repetitive nature of the game would turn me off the game, too. But I’ve chosen to still look at the puzzle squares to try and solve the puzzles rather than to memorize words based on the letters in the puzzle. Sure, you’re going to remember some words with enough repetition, but that is a good thing for me because I’ve learned some new words along the way. I also don’t use hints. I then try to go as fast as I can—despite having seen these words over and over, the game remains challenging (and therefore enjoyable) for me playing this way. I can still get stuck on a word for 20 minutes sometimes.

    I’m not on a top scoring team, but I don’t begrudge their enthusiasm or intensity. For me, it adds to the fun atmosphere of the tournaments. Yeah, Wordscapes is just a game, just like football, baseball, cricket, and rugby are just fun sports. Some people just get into them more than others.

    PS no, it’s not Harvard medical school, but the game tries to be sometimes by slipping in medical terms now and then

    Keep having fun!

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    Omnomnom, I have no inner rhythm, but I give you a big thumbs up 👍! Great job!

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    StarLord WS, sounds like ‘amnesia’ level 1584 will become a Wordscapes proficiency test for joining a team, like a SAT score.

    I hope to score 21—so, I might as well forget about it 🙄.

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    Serious playaz, I think they are still testing the midweek tournament and other games. Presumably the same people get them so they can track usage using the same sample of players/guinea pigs. (I would assume the initial randomization was the selection of the test group of players some weeks ago.)

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    ....oh, Mugsy Bar, you’ve been throwing them all this time—would explain all the potatoes in my yard! 🙄

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    RedMountainPass, best wishes and stay safe! 😊

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    ...they’ll come in handy for all those potatoes 🥔

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    Mugsy bar, I use my formula for estimating words from a brillance score. Because of the seeming randomness of puzzles lengthens and word lengths; it is a relatively good predictor of a word score.

    The biggest confounding variable is the bonus words which muddy the predictive strength of my formula. For an average team like mine, the effect is relatively small, but for a team that maximizes bonus words, the effect might be greater.

    Thanks again for the new insight into the game—my brain just sprouted another neuron! (It makes up for the ones I lose when I bang my head against the wall trying to solve some words)

    PS. I’ve ordered you some more napkins.

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    PS. ...you must have gone through a lot of napkins!

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    Mugsy bar, very interesting; did you get that from observation/counting words/letters of multiple puzzles?

    That would explain some of the variation I see using my formula; the remaining variation would be the bonus words.

    (I initially started counting words/ letters on puzzles trying to figure it out, but I got a headache and became cross eyed after only a few puzzles 🤪)

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    ...that last one should put an end to any marriage proposals!

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    Silverstar, unfortunately, the formula doesn’t help me solve the word “tree”, my arch nemesis, or prevent me from spending 30 minutes trying to fit 7 letters into a word that only has room for 6, my latest puzzle gaffe....

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    (I use the formula for calculating the words from a brillance score; the 3:1 brilliance to words is a close enough conversion ratio)

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    Sorry—

    That should read;

    Words = (0.31)*brillance + 9.6

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    (The formula I use based on linear regression of brilliance and words taken from samples of tournament play from the last couple of months is:

    Brillance = (0.31)*words + 9.6

    This formula includes bonus words, so it may not be entirely accurate, but it is close enough.)

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    Jimbo, you are spot on. As Opal said, each puzzle has its own brillance assigned to it. The game developers won’t reveal how it’s calculated (like some secret sauce recipe), but brillance is linearly related to words by a roughly 3:1 ratio.

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    Bruno, thanks, sounds like the magical tool I’ve been looking for!

    Paul young, I think you’re on to something, too—instead of swiping, your wiping your data and if you don’t like the results, just flush it. To archive your data, I assume you use 2 ply (probably good enough for 6 months, any longer, I would go with the traditional birch bark)

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    WizeOwlz Team Leader, ok thanks. From your answer I infer that you input the data manually, too, then.

    (Bruno, I don’t use excel, but I am fiddling around with an Access database including doing some VBA coding. To my chagrin, one almost has to learn VBA coding to do anything useful with Access—this is definitely driving me certified nuts, though 🤪!!!!! since I’m not computer savvy by nature. My stuff is more for some team fun rather than competitive analytics; regardless, it is a big headache trying to get the bugs worked out.)

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    For those who helped me with the data requests and for those who are new to the game and wonder about the tournament scoring, I posted my stuff under “Wordscapes tournament scoring”.

    These are just my thoughts in trying to understand the scoring and maybe help new players recognize what is just normal and good play.

    Sorry to those I’ve annoyed along the way in the process.

    Keep having fun people.

    Tippytoes (et al) over and out
    😊

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    WizeOwlz Team Leader, you appear to do a lot of stats for your team. I do a few for mine, too, but I was hoping there was an easier way. I currently use screen shots of the team brillance scores and manually enter the data, which can be prone to error. I play via an iPhone, and I can’t seem to access the data any other way but for this brute force and ignorance method. Any other magical way of doing this? Thanks.

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    Annabelle, on a team already, thanks. Good luck with your team!

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    Thanks Inkspiration. It would be interesting it know the max words per hour for the player who broke 40000.

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    ...I know, but I always wanted to sign my name like that (sounds more authoritative than Tippytoes) 😊

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    Katz, no worries.

    This chat thing is interesting, though. When one reads a previous chat/text, it is like reading a newspaper or book or whatever. But when someone engages you real time with chat, as Randy did, everything seems to change—I find it is like a cross between writing and talking with a greater need to respond in real time and less time for thoughtful reflection.

    Regardless if Randy is the genuine Randy or a troll, my response was directed not so much at Randy but for others who may think similarly and read this chat. So I engaged the topic.

    I probably wouldn’t have responded if I saw the same text 12 hours later for the reasons you give (all caps—always a red flag, etc...), but it was happening in real time.

    Sincerely,
    Et al

    😊

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    Sorry to set you guys off—just looking for some data here and got blindsided by Randy in real time. I should have invited him into the Wordscapes cheating zone first before offering him a drink in the general chat zone, but one thing lead to another, and, .... Did I mention I was sorry?

    Ps. Dare I ask you for a high score—ok, never mind...

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Mar, that’s good insight!!!

    I officially append that to my last response to Randy.

    Thanks again

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    Randy, a high rate of scoring doesn’t equate with cheating for many reasons.

    By getting rid of ads, your game speed increases by probably 25-50%.

    Most players who have a high rate of scoring do so because they’ve played the game a long time (the puzzles and words eventually repeat—so one becomes familiar with even uncommon words and many players remember words based on the puzzle levels)

    Many players also come into this game with an aptitude for words and word puzzles like scrabble and have a large vocabulary.

    Really fast players are also—well, really fast, both with their mind and fingers.

    Factor in the use of hints periodically, and you can achieve these scores.

    Randy, have you ever tried solving a rubics cube before? (That multicoloured cube where you try to get all the same colour on each face.). I can’t; it seems impossible—but the right person with a quick mind and fingers who has practiced it can do it in literally seconds. Try looking at playing Wordscapes the same way—pattern/word recognition coupled with practice, a quick mind and fast fingers equals a high scorer without cheating.

    If you’re new to this game, then these scores seem like cheating (when I first played, I was happy to break 1000 over a weekend). But the more you play this game, the easier it gets. But you also have to be good with words and remembering, too.

    Anyway Randy, this game is for fun; I enjoy playing and don’t cheat (I don’t even use hints anymore). I know I’m not a top scorer either. But just because someone is twice as fast as me doesn’t make them a cheat.

    One last thing, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t matter how good or bad others are—you’re playing hopefully for your own enjoyment and mental challenge; at least I am.
    .

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    Randy, what level are you on and do you play with ads?

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    Thanks mar.

    I tried typing something earlier but I got an error. So I’m going to repeat it.

    It seems the maximum words per hour is <1500 and the maximum puzzle score is <100.

    I agree about playing time—my best score was 14000, but it took the whole weekend playing like a zombie; so, I can see someone like yourself twice as fast as me getting your top score.

    Mar, my ultimate goal with this is to create some guidelines for new players and players who felt they were victims of cheating to help them understand whether cheating did or did not occur.

    Any other players out there who can score >1500 words per hour, let me know. Thanks

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    Mugsy bar, you are a player of few words/vegetables. I missed the memo on the potato—I’m unsure whether it’s meant to be interpreted as a 😊, or ☹️, or 🤪, or just a potato 🥔.

    Sincerely,
    🥦

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    Lark, level 50 to join a team; level 65 to play in team tournaments

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    Have fun! 😊

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    Joanne, you can be first in your tournament, but 6 other teammates have higher scores than yours in their individual tournaments.

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    Any other high scorers? I know you’re busy right now accumulating massive scores, but the more data the better!

    Thanks 😊

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    Thanks Mugsy bar!

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    (SwedishChef, just to clarify, is “1218” referring to the version update of the game?)

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    Thanks SwedishChef. That’s just the hard number data I’m looking for.

    Any others with higher scores?

    (To be clear, you don’t have to explain how or special memory/list techniques that you want to keep to yourself; I’m working with the assumption these are honourable scores—I’m just looking for the human limits of the game based on real time playing experience)

    Thanks

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    WANTED; Are you a top scorer who scores >20000 in the weekend tournament? I am looking for maximum scores:

    1). Maximum words per hour

    2). Maximum points per puzzle (includes bonus
    words)

    WHY: I am trying to put together possible scores in this game without cheating to help people understand what is and isn’t cheating. I need some guidance since (shamefully 😞) I am not a high scorer myself.

    I think the maximum score for a puzzle is probably in the 50-60 words and most likely < 100, but this is only my opinion.

    I think the maximum words per hour is in the 1500 or so range and most likely < 2000, but I don’t have first hand data to back this up.

    New players especially don’t understand what’s possible in this game and I want to clarify things. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

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    (Yeah, I really loved it that much! Or it was a silly computer glitch!)

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    “Gone to chase comets ☄️ “—I love it, Dragon. Enjoy and best wishes! 👍

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    “Gone to chase comets ☄️ “—I love it, Dragon. Enjoy and best wishes! 👍

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    “Gone to chase comets ☄️ “—I love it, Dragon. Enjoy and best wishes! 👍

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    Red mountain pass, I don’t know what the game developers do with dormant players that do longer play. I would assume nothing. If that dormant player had joined a team, presumably most team leaders would boot the player from the team after an extended (? Weeks, ? Months) period of inactivity. Obviously, if I’m the one who dies—I’m not worrying about it!

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    Red mountain pass, glad to hear you have found a better forum for discussing your health and personal issues. This is, after all, a gaming site, and my efforts earlier were solely to help you find a team. People of all races, religions, genders, and ages potentially play this game, so, as a general rule, I don’t infer anything about other players other than they enjoy playing this game. So, I hope you continue enjoying the game and stay safe.

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    (Sorry—Jimbo, not Jumbo)

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    Jumbo, good observation about the crown—they are obviously taking a little break from the tournaments to let their fingers regenerate after being worn down to the bone from years/decades of non stop playing.

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    (It would take roughly 14 years playing 24 hours a day at a pace of 1400-1500 words per hour to achieve that brillance score)

    I don’t like calling people cheats, but this person (? Android, ? Robot,) is cheating at the game.

    The player name “lol” is the icing on the cake.

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    It is not possible without computer manipulation (see earlier discussion under “Wordscapes cheating”).

    PS. Even factoring in the use of all toes and available appendages—not possible

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    I created a email account just for this game to avoid these name / privacy issues

    PS. My real name is Tippy Middle Toes

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    Kamuela, I see what you mean. So, perhaps it is indeed just part of his name that got flagged because that was somehow tied to filtered text.

    This is how they explained the chat filter to me:

    “Also, while a word or phrase is not considered inappropriate to you, that does not mean it's not offensive to another player who may have reported it previously, and therefore it had to be added to the filter. Please take these factors into consideration when you are noticing certain words and phrases being blocked.”

    Regardless, bad programming/illogical algorithm is at the heart of it.

    Have a good tournament, Kamuela.

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    Kamuela, the only thing that explains that to me is their name got tied up in repeated chats that got reported. This would have occurred before they recently started flagging individual words. Otherwise,I’m still scratching my head over it 🤔

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    Hi Ian, the game allows for in game purchases of hints etc... via the shopping cart 🛒; stay away from the shopping cart and you shouldn’t be charged.

    The “coins” are part of the game and not real money. (Of course, the game developers put the “coins” right beside the 🛒 which can lead to confusion)

    There is a one time fee for getting rid of ads, but once the ads are gone, you shouldn’t be charged

    (Personally, I disable in game purchases for apps in my phone just to avoid unexpected and inadvertent surprises)

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    Kirsten, the mid week tournament and sometimes other surprises occur randomly for different players. It is the game developers experimenting with us as guinea pigs in their master plan to overthrow the universe.

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    🤣

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    Dragon and Kameula, your exchange just now gave me a flashback to “The Crying Game” 😳

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    😀

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    I don’t think they are turning the game into anything it isn’t already—they’re just tweaking it. Of course, if you’ve had an update with expanded words, no one likes to have that taken away. But as Anonymous points out, they will update again—this is not a static game. And they also seem to be responsive to people’s concerns. Although they may not act quickly enough for our liking, they do make an effort to improve the game.

    Personally, I just love the overall look, feel, and sound of the game. Being able to interact with others on a team is also great (remember, team play is only a few months old).

    And yea, it is just a game—but a fun game, for me at least!

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    Simon, the response they gave me has a little more info:

    “Thank for the message. Over the last few months we have been testing multiple bonus word lists. We have recently begun switched all players to the same list. You may see some words that were previously accepted, no longer accepted, as well as words that haven't been previously accepted now accepted. All players will be using the same list when playing.

    The list was changed for game balancing reasons. Not all words are accepted as bonus words. However, we may add more words in the future. Thanks for playing. We appreciate it.”

    Sounds like they’re done using us as guinea pigs.

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    Simon, thanks for the update feedback!

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    Weeksy, hopefully now innocent words including people’s game nicknames won’t become innocent bystanders when chat gets reported.

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    SwedishChef, why do they mess with the dictionaries like that? Makes no sense—2 steps forward, then 1 step backwards—so to speak,

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    (Ps. I think they have it fixed now— I did get 4 helps in 5 hours, though last night)

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    SwedishChef, it’s just my and yours little secret—don’t tell anyone, especially in this chat 😉

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    Gail, as PRstr says, you can change the nickname anytime (click on the ✏️icon). But I was also wondering whether the name showing up here is different from your nickname in the game. I understand that people playing thru Facebook can use a different icon photo, so I also wonder whether the name shown here depends on the medium thru which they login to play the game (I’m not using Facebook, so I’m just speculating 🤔).

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    Amanda, great idea for a team (seriously)—hopefully somebody else follows up on it because there is a need for teams like that.

    PS. Sounds like your teammates want you back; good luck and don’t put so much pressure on yourself—it’s just a game

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    Katz, thanks

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    Katz, that’s what I’m asking—what do you mean by open? I don’t see any reference to open in the team info. Does that mean the team is not filled and there are open spots? If there are open spots, does that mean anyone from another team can chat with your team?

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    Katz, sorry, I meant to say “anyone” for joining (see, I’m just being dense again) 🙄

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    Katz, our team is “open” for joining, but I don’t see the connection with being able to chat with someone from another team (connect the dots for me please...I feeling a little dense right now) 🤔

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    Mugsy Bar, how do you know whether your team is “open” vs, presumably “closed”?

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    Go getter, did a person change their name and you just don’t recognize their new name (the changed name should still show up on you team member list, though)?

    Did someone recently join your team?

    Otherwise, not sure how that happens....anyone else seen this?

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    Hey, for those without the front row seats to the slugfest—what were the team scores, rankings, and high players scores? 🤔

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    Jodi, there has been a problem with the chat being too restrictive. Part of the issue maybe if your name was used in a chat numerous times and those chats were reported, your name may have been flagged as part of the banned chat.
    (This may not have even been your chats; other people on other teams using “Jodi” in their banned chats could have caused this, too.)

    Two things you can do:

    1) direct an email via the “send us a message” on the main page telling them your specific problem; they usually respond. Maybe they can “free” your name

    2) as a quick fix, alter the spelling of the name by adding a “-“ like “-Jodi” to bypass the chat filter for the time being

    Good luck

    (Option 3] is to legally change your name so you can chat—ummmm, maybe not)

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    (PS Torvil, if you feel you don’t have enough players to form your own team, but you want to leave AND keep your teammates together, consider merging with another like minded team. Again, check the “TEAMS looking for players” forum topic)

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    Torvil, I don’t think there is much you can do if the captain never chats—they would be oblivious to your displeasure and probably don’t care. Until the captain (team leader) leaves, they control the team.

    If you have a lot of people on the team who feel similarly as you and who communicate thru the team chat, then consider making your own team. Now, you could organize that thru the team chat—but the chat disappears after a while and can be hard to fully discuss things.

    A better option for discussing your mutinous plans is creating a forum topic in the previous section to discuss this amongst your teammates (creating a topic just for your team is suggested rather than in this general chat because chat gets buried quickly here making it harder to follow a discussion). By doing this thru the forum, when people do leave the team you still have a place to coordinate things.

    If instead you just jump ship, there are always competitive teams looking for players (see the “TEAMS looking for players” forum topic).

    Best of luck.

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    Angel, thanks for the feedback—I am now one step closer to being a genius. Now I can stop working on my new alias—“eggy” (short for egg on my face)

    Good luck the rest of the tournament!

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    Angel, in the FAQ section under tournaments, it just says how to change the team name. It does not mention any consequences for doing this. I am not a genius, but It does not make any sense that your team would lose points for changing your name.

    (If you change your team name and lose your team points, don’t bother looking for tippytoes—I will have changed my name, too!)

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    SwedishChef, very interesting indeed—Arizona is on mountain standard time year round, one of few states not on daylight saving time (according to my basic googling)—maybe that accounts for it. (I was otherwise going to put forth an alien abduction theory, but, ... the daylight savings time anomaly may account for it—maybe they live close to a state that does have daylight savings time and their internet connection is routed through there????? 🤔)

    PS. SwedishChef, the suspect has been very cooperative—make sure you reward them with some “helps”.

    Have a great tournament people!

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    Kameula, maybe it’s my simplistic mind, but since people already play starting at different times based on their time zone, wouldn’t that imply the tournament start time is independent of people’s device times. Regardless, questions remain.

    SwedishChef, more interrogation of the suspect might be required—had they indeed been altering their computer clock? Was their device time set 1 hour ahead? Had they been playing offline or airplane mode before joining in the tournament? Had they have this happen before? Glad to hear you have the suspect in custody on your team—let’s see what happens this weekend—watch them carefully, SwedishChef 👀

    Have a good tournament everyone.

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    Emma, thank you for your kind words. I don’t do other online stuff, so, I’ll pass on the reddit, thanks. Like many others here, I just like the game and if I can help others along the way, then great. Isn’t part of the fun of this forum section the randomness of it all—you never know what you find in some of the topics; keeps you on your toes—your tippytoes! 😉

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    Emma, the brilliance score can tell you some things. A score less than 50000 is a pretty new player, a score 100000-150000 means a relatively new player still probably below the Masters levels, scores well into the 100000’s is probably an experienced player, and a score in the millions is probably an experienced player who plays a lot.

    How does that translate into tournament play? Well, it doesn’t necessarily. Scores less than 50000 are the biggest uncertainty—really good, fast, and eager players all have to start somewhere, so they could have a low brilliance but still be really good especially with more time. A really high brilliance score could also be a player who is now “burnt out” and doesn’t play much now, or, someone really addicted to the game and really put up numbers. But as has already been said, generally, a high brilliance score tells you the player plays a lot.

    Because brilliance scores have limitations, if you’re interested in tournament performance, then you need to focus on tournament scores—average tournament scores, high scores, and frequency of play.

    You also can infer this information from the crown status—which is probably the best indicator of tournament performance. Having the highest crown level tells you the player has been playing the tournaments consistently AND being successful.

    (Note, I don’t think the game developers have solved the crown problem of spring crowns being shown in the summer format—so, if the player has a current summer crown higher than 2 yellow flowers, that is a spring crown and the player has yet to earn crown points for the summer tournament. )

    Good luck with your team, Emma 😊

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    Thelma, the bees on this game are wild and useless; apart from giving you a few coins associated with random letter placements, they otherwise produce no honey and are likely to sting you. My advice—avoid the bees 🐝

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    Janice, if your team is looking for more players, consider advertising in the “TEAMS looking for players” forum topic as well.

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    Silverstar, I’m in a bit of a cat fight with my match—if only I really could use my toes. Have a great day. 😊

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    Silverstar, I should never have revealed the toe technique—that was to be Frostwood’s and my way to success in this game. Now, the cat is out of the bag, and the elite of this game will have no limits. I must say, involving your spouse was very unexpected—is there even room for 30+ digits fluttering away on your screen at once. Not to be outdone, I involved my dog—but the results are mixed—a lot of “woofs” and “ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssss” —most of the words even the new dictionary doesn’t accept. I must go now; the pulled groin muscle is acting up and the dog nipped at my fingers one too many times.

    You have won the toe contest—time to put my shoes on.

    You haves great day, too, SIlverstar.

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    Silverstar, of course you’d love to play us, the fox said to the hen, because your team would demolish us.

    Follow up to the toes—hey, what a great idea. Ok, I am visualizing this now and.....oh my....well, sorry, I’m not feeling well now; must go....

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    Silverstar, aaah yes, just now. You guys have a great/(insert any other superlative here) team, but I like the group I’m with—you know how it is, when you get to know the people you play with, it becomes a little “gaming” family after a while.

    PS after playing against Plantagenet last week and getting thrashed, I hope we never, ever, ever, (ever) to the nth degree play you guys/gals

    PPS. I’ve given up on the toe technique—pulled a groin muscle and fell off my chair while trying to solve a bonus word with my right 4th toe (should have known better—I’m left handed!)

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    Anonymous (words worth), FYI I created a new topic “TEAMS looking for players” where you can also advertise your team. (After a day or two, your post here will get “buried” and harder to find)

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    Rocky, I’m a C.F.A., but have acquired a certain Newfie sensibility with time (maybe that’s why I struggled with “cod”) 😊

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    Rocky, you’re very popular and now I know why after Sapphire’s earlier post. Glad to share the “rock” with you. This is no recruitment ploy to join a team, just a friendly hello from someone who enjoys the game. I am no where near your level (11k max) especially since I struggled with the word “cod” the other day—ohh, the shame—best wishes in finding a new team 😊

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    Teams looking for players and players looking for teams:

    I’ve just created a forum topic for both so teams and people can advertise themselves in one place (besides this general chat). People can do some comparison shopping so to speak and to minimize teams and people advertising themselves in other unrelated topic forums.

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    (if a crown has more than 2 flowers at this stage, it is an old crown from the spring)

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    Anonymous, the crowns are all mixed up— if someone hasn’t played in the summer tournament yet, their crown is from the spring tournament—but, confusingly, in the summer style. The game developers are aware of the problem and hopefully will fix it.

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    Mar, I like your idea, but, it would be a very laborious process prone to error to be done by us. Having done some in house stats for my own team, it is very tedious.

    If you’re really keen, consider starting your own topic “weekend tournament leaders” in this forum and have people take screenshots of the final team standings and submit to a Facebook page [to be created by whoever tracks the scores]). Then post their team’s star count ranked amongst submitting. Of course, someone then has to transfer that data to a spreadsheet or data base to keep track of it if you really want standings etc..,that takes a lot of time given the potential number of teams. Tracking a few teams, say the really top teams, probably not a problem.

    Obviously, this is best done by the game developers who have all the data.
    Maybe the game developers will act on it; afterall, these team tournaments are still relatively new.

    My head hurts now thinking about all this!!!

    Good luck

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    Mar, interesting idea. Logistically, it would have to be from the Wordscapes people given the innumerable teams playing if there is to be any reliability to the results. You can always send the game developers an email with your request and see what happens.

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    Frostwood, yes indeed, your Plantagenet team is very good—you were in our group this tournament and you guys and gals did great kicking all of our butts. Good luck with your future tournaments (you don’t need any luck, though).

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    Sorry Doofus, I forgot to sign off on my last message

    Sincerely,

    Tippyt😊es

    (This message has been officially vetted by the word police)

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    Doofus, the odd well placed “-“ seems to work many times at circumventing the word police. For your name, see if something creative like
    “D😊😊fus” (I really mean no offence). I also now copy my chat text into memory before sending; if it gets rejected, I repaste it and fiddle until it works.

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    Doofus, welcome to the world of artificial intelligence where common sense is not very common. The game chat tests one’s ingenuity in bypassing the game police “rules”. Very frustrating indeed.

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    Rocky, thank you. I just like playing this game and the friendly chatty banter of like minded individuals that goes with it. I really don’t like this negative vibe stuff; sincere best wishes to you, Rocky 😊

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    Anonymous, good news—your psychometric testing did have a match with “Troll-are-us” located underneath the nearest bridge. They only require excessive emotional baggage and extra large chips on your shoulders, both of which you have in abundance! Best wishes filling that empty void in your life under the bridge.

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    Anonymous, current psychometric testing suggests you’re the wrong candidate for this chat site. Thank you for your interest and best wishes with your future endeavours 👍

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    Silverstar, you’re absolutely right—the game developers are working on the bug 🐜 with the tournament crowns; hopefully it will be fixed by the next update, so all should be good as you said. My hair got a little messed up worrying about this crown thing—better now, thanks. 😉

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    Silverstar, on our team list, ALL the crowns for both spring and summer are in the summer style; thus, one cannot tell whether ether crown was earned in the spring or during the current tournament.

    Very confusing. So I now have a small leafy crown but someone on our team who didn’t play on the weekend has a large flowery crown (based on their spring performance).

    I like the idea of showing others what people have already earned, but the execution of it so far is problematic.

    I thought about them doing a “micro” version of their tournament crown view (the one with all four seasons in one view) and place that between the image of the persons current tournament crown and the help/brilliance data, but it might look too tiny.

    (You may not notice this if your on a team where everyone earned a beginning crown this weekend)

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    Open request:

    Hello everyone. The game developers are obviously trying to deal with the complaints of people losing their hard fought crowns after the tournament ends. Their solution of intermixing spring crowns and new summer crowns all in the same summer style I’d very confusing to say the least.

    Having more than one crown displayed may also get confusing.

    I know there are many seasoned Wordscapes veterans in this chat, so I’m sure some of you very creative, thoughtful, and intelligent people might have better ideas about the crowns.

    Could you share them in this chat—after a couple of days, I can send the game developers a note with your (hopefully many) ideas and possible solutions on everyone’s behalf.

    Let’s help make the game better together! 😊

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    Yes Silverstar, it wildly exceeds my expectations—my minimum standard for a vision only needs track pants (well worn), a bag of cheetos, and a baseball cap (with combed hair) while sitting on an empty crate in a basement with sirens blaring in the background.

    PS I like your vision better

    PPS Your proficiency with your appendages scares me; I’m still struggling with the thumb thing. Cheers!

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    Hi silverstar, in your vision, just make sure i’m wearing clothes and my hair is combed. Thanks.

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    Sister4sc, thanks for showing their response. So, I guess after this weekend’s tournament, we will see a silver crown beside our name, but everyone else’s will be their previous spring crown. Clear as mud. The game developers like to throw a lot of curve balls at us just to see if we’re paying attention. Have fun sistet4sc and good luck the rest of the tournament 😊

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    Frostwood, don’t worry; most of us are mere mortals like yourself—I am still trying to figure out how these opposable thumbs work. I won’t be challenging these 20k people until I figure out a way to use all my toes, too!

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    Hello sister, I think the crowns represent your spring tournament equivalent using the summer ones. You don’t see your own crown because it is highlighting your name in the team list. I wonder if when people start earning the summer crowns, they will list it beside the spring equivalent—let’s wait and see. Have a fun tournament everyone!

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    We also have a spot on our team (similar to word whimsy below) after booting the troll. We are team unity—green/yellow emblem with tree: team brilliance 8 mill; range of players from novice to a few very good (ie 10000+); our tournament scores in the 90-100k range. We encourage team spirit and collegial play, if anyone is interested.
    (More importantly, avoid “epicgaming” player at all costs)

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    WARNING: We had a “troll”/generally bad person join our team today—alias: epicgaming—very rude and tried to encourage cheating. Needless to say, we booted him from our team.
    Don’t let him/her on your team. Have a great day everyone.

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    Steph
    I saw your earlier post looking for a competitive team. Our team won our last two tournaments in the 50000 to 70000 range. We have a couple players regularly scoring 10000 points as well as a lot of new players. We have a positive team attitude and just opened up 3 spots on the team. Our team is “unity” (with the yellow and green coat of arms with a tree) (team brilliance 7,000,000+).
    Best wishes to everyone and have fun!

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    Blue and Annabelle, shall we call you the happy wanderers? Now, scoot back to the “TEAMS looking for players” where you belong—and try not to get lost again on the way!

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    Captnemo, send the game makers an email under the the “send us a message” section on the main support page voicing your concerns. They don’t read these forum topic areas.

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    Lee-Ann Kenyon, Racial, some violent, vulgar words amongst others are filtered in addition to words that get repeated reported by players. Yes, the chat is “biased” in that sense, but racial and religious words can also be the most abused, too.

    They are protecting us from ourselves and them from complaints as well as being able to maintain the rating for the game.

    It is frustrating for those of us who try to act responsibly, but, unfortunately, not everyone does.

    I wouldn’t take the chat restrictions too personally because EVERYONE can find something about the restrictions that annoys them or makes them feel personally targeted.

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    Team, part of the issue with the chat restrictions is it has been tailored to prevent solicitation and abuse of minors (noble intentions) with the collateral damage being otherwise innocent words on their own are flagged. Unfortunately, words that a child predator might use to groom an unsuspecting minor seem to be caught in the middle of this (ie “special”).

    There has to be a balance somewhere, but, in the grand scheme of things, personally I would err on the side of caution of protecting minors. For me the trade off is coming up with creative workarounds for these otherwise harmless words.

    I foresee this being a ongoing issue—for now, try to make lemonade with the lemons 🍋 we’ve been given until they come up with a better way of monitoring/filtering the chats.

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    Julian, thanks for the update. Don’t give up—if they can do something with chat restrictions in a few weeks time, I’m sure they can remedy the dictionary problem much quicker.

    You are not alone in your displeasure with the dictionary; I’m sure they will get the hint (maybe we need to give them 5 hints before they help us, though 😊).

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    Hey Jodi,just curious, any luck freeing your name from the chat restrictions?

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    Katz, I think you’re right—I managed to type some things that used to be banned, including “I am going to ride a horse”!!!!!!!!!!

    Good job everyone in your efforts at reigning in the chat restrictions—I think they may actually have done something about. 👍

    PS I am going to miss saying....well, you know.

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    Katz, I guess it’s like trying to manoeuvre a large ship or stopping a long train—takes a bit of time but hopefully they eventually reach their destination without hitting an ice berg or derailing.

    I know l’m not saying much here or have any profound insight, because....I just wanted to say one more time....

    FIX the CHAT RESTRICTIONS!!!!!!

    There, that felt good’

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    Katz, funnily, the dictionary most seems to accept “yarn”, “strand”, and “thread” but not “brane”; there must be a theory tying this altogether—but I’m at a loss.

    FIX the CHAT RESTRICTIONS!!!

    PS. I just like typing that now—somewhat cathartic.

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    Silverstar, I like the idea of using an alternative universe;I hear there are lots to chose from—should be more than enough for each one of the teams!

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    ...or type in code like Skyrim (although I am not a certified code breaker, I may have figured it out)

    Other alternative solutions include:

    For like minded teams—telepathy (effective until one tries to think of two things at once)

    For those in open spaces—smoke signals (not good on a windy day or at night when many of us play)

    For those who like physical play—body language (may need a powerful telescope if teammates are in different time zones)

    For those who are really smart—quantum physics (I don’t understand this one because...well, I’m not really smart)

    For everyone else, do the best you can until they FIX the CHAT RESTRICTIONS (see, I can break the code)

    😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Emma, all good suggestions.

    Besides the copy and paste before sending (which is useful for a long chat to save rewriting everything):

    for a short chat “use-dashes-between-words” (tedious but effective)

    For scores, use abbreviations 10K for 10000

    For words with no good alternative, a mizspelling is effective (if you get it past your spell checker)

    For banned common words, other similar alternatives like “telephony” for phone

    They keep asking for our patience in solving this, but I do hope the are truly working in it. I wonder though, because the crown issue (ie spring crowns being shown in the summer style) is still with us, and that looks like a more straightforward issue to solve but it hasn’t been.

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    SUGGESTION: everyone concerned about this (which should be about everyone playing), address your concerns through the “send us a message” on the main forum page as I have.

    The more messages in this they get should prompt them fixing it.

    (I also suggest venting your frustrations prior to writing—they are more likely to listen and to respond)

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    Silverstar, from their response, it seems that words or phrases that are REPEATEDLY reported get added to the filter. This might explain the increasingly arbitrary banning of words that were once okay. I don’t think the location of the computer servers has anything to do with it—it looks to be just a poorly constructed computer filtering algorithm in my opinion.

    I have sent three separate emails to them in the last two days; the last two have not been responded to yet. I did stress the importance of this issue to us players; hopefully they are truly acting on it. Realistically, since it seems to be a computer coding issue, they’ll need some time to fix it.

    In the meantime, keep having fun as best you can and enjoy the tournament this weekend.

    😊

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    Opal, I sent them yet another email on the issue addressing the fact that certain players names and common phrases are being flagged. I also tried to point out the different reasons people report comments, and how their current algorithm, as I understand it, is flawed (well, that was pretty obvious).

    The ball is back in their court.

    Of course, I will report back here with any new info when I get it.

    (I just say to myself now when I see the dreaded “you can’t say that”—i can’t because I am such a wonderful, beautiful person who prefers telepathy to typing. Of course, you knew that already, Opal, because you read my mind, too!)
    😊

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    Opal, I think a key phase in their response is;

    “Also, while a word or phrase is not considered inappropriate to you, that does not mean it's not offensive to another player who may have reported it previously, and therefore it had to be added to the filter.”

    —> and THEREFORE IT HAD TO BE ADDED TO THE FILTER

    So, I infer from this is that when people report a chat comment, if words in that comment have been reported before, they get automatically added.

    The problem is, which words are the words in the chat message are truly offensive when someone reports it.—Or is it not a specific word but the overall sentiment being reported—Or is the person reporting it because they just don’t like that person and want to get rid of the comment from their chat feed.

    Unfortunately, using this type of logic, the chat can only get more and more restrictive as more things get reported for whatever reason.

    I am awaiting their next reply, but I don’t expect this to get resolved quickly.

    My solution for now is to just try to be creative in bypassing the filter—use dashes in words or purposely change the spelling of a word by one letter etc...do the best you can 😊

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    Here is their second response:

    “The system used is an automated-filter. It's not something that we usually manually add words to unless we find something that is inappropriate that slipped through the filter.

    Also, while a word or phrase is not considered inappropriate to you, that does not mean it's not offensive to another player who may have reported it previously, and therefore it had to be added to the filter. Please take these factors into consideration when you are noticing certain words and phrases being blocked. We are working hard to ensure a safe environment for all players as the app is rated Teen and above.”

    I, of course, not wanting to sleep tonight, responded—the saga continues...

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Don’t bother with a list people, I just sent them another message with my own examples.

    I suggested they keep it simple and restrict to words already banned in the puzzles and overt sexual terms (not implied), racial and religious slurs, and violent terms.

    That’s all I can suggest; hopefully common sense prevails.

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    This is their response:

    “Thanks for the feedback. We are working to implement some chat filters in the game. We are trying to find a balance of how restrictive the word list should be. We appreciate you patience while we work on it. “

    Can people give me a list of words that have been “filtered” that shouldn’t be so I can follow this up

    Ie. “riding” etc...

    Thanks

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    I sent a message to People fun expressing my concerns. Presumably others posting in this forum topic have also done so.

    My solution for them was to return the restrictions to where they were a few weeks ago

    Ironically, a mean spirited person can still be very cruel and nasty in the chat (this has happened on my team already for which the only real solution is to boot them from the team and report their comments) while innocent friendly banter is censored. This protects no one.

    I suggest people who feel strongly about this also send a message saying as much. The more people complaining from different teams hopefully will make them reconsider the restrictions.

    (If we can express ourselves freely here, why not in the chat? 🤔)

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    Fran Murray, I agree the restrictions are very frustrating. It is almost a game within a game trying to figure it, but with no rules or rules that change arbitrarily. In their attempt to protect minors, they have gone way overboard not allowing words or phases that, in the proper context, are totally innocent.

    One glaring example is this: I could not send “you can do it”. It was obviously not in the context of some wild orgy but in the context of a close weekend tournament to a fellow teammate (were they having an orgy AND playing Wordscapes? I’ll say no)

    PEOPLE FUN—put the “fun” back in the game and put the “intelligence” back in your artificial intelligence word surveillance program by putting it back to were it was.

    Unless a team is composed completely of “really bad peoples with bad motives for minors” shall we say, teams can police themselves by reporting the comments. I have inquired about what happens to reported comments, and the game developers have told me that people can be barred from teams and tournaments. So, they do have some method of enforcement.

    Let’s just make lemonade with the lemons they’ve given us for now, but hopefully they get the message and go back to basic screening for bad words and the really obvious stuff.

    Have fun everyone.

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    BG13, please, take mine—I keep getting them and I don’t want them (I’ll throw in some coins for you, too, if I could)

    PS. From the sounds of it, I don’t think you’re missing much not getting the spinning wheel one 😊

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    Rhi jo, see Abby’s comment July 23

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    M, there are a lot of inequalities I this game; it’ll drive you nuts if you think about it too much—and, unfortunately, start to take away from your enjoyment of the game. But if this issue really bothers you, give the game developers some feedback under the “send us a message” area of the support page—they don’t read these forums.

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    Snarflopteryx, no.

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    PS. By “them” I mean the people at support, not the caterpillars—they’re too busy sleeping in their cocoons! 😊

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    Lady, not sure what’s going on there. Probably best to email support about your problem with absent butterflies 🦋 (I guess the little caterpillars are taking a break in their cocoons). Contact them through “send us a message” on the main support page.

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    Jk, solve the words in the order where the butterfly flies to. If you do this, you will maximize your score and earn enough stars to earn the pictures and the coins.

    In general, if you get no more than 2 or 3 of the words wrong where the butterfly is, you should still have enough correct words to get the maximum number of stars for the daily puzzle.

    The logic I use to solve the words Is I look at whether the letters of the word I’m solving will also work for any of the remaining unsolved words that overlap with that word. I also look at other unsolved words of similar length in the puzzle and try to see if my word would work better there. Using this strategy, I can usually easily get all the monthly pictures and coins.

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    You do get additional coins (12-15 or so) finishing the daily puzzle after the pictures are completed. So, if you finish by mid month, you can earn around 100 coins for the rest of the month, or the equivalent of one free hint—you never know, that one extra hint might make the difference in a close tournament 😊.

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