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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    WhiteWolf_Zo,

    Sorry to leave you high and dry—I had deleted my post after venting.

    I totally agree with you, though; profanity in the chat is not appropriate. If someone needs to curse with profanity in a game chat, they should find a different game that’s rated accordingly.

    Think about it. This game uses beautiful background pictures and calming background music while you play it. The game is rated to allow kids to play, too. This is about as “wholesome” a game as you’ll find.

    So, does it then make any sense to debase the chat with vulgar language?

    The chat hopefully builds bridges amongst your fellow teammates from all over.

    So, why potentially alienate fellow teammates with vulgar and offensive language?

    WhiteWolf_Zo, I think you summed it up perfectly:

    “NoNoNo”!!!!’

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Cathy, a lot of words related to pictures are banned (presumably “cam” is too because it can take “pics”, “pictures” etc...). I think they ban these words because they don’t want people chatting “send me a picture” etc...

    (I think they are trying to protect more vulnerable players like children from predators. Using other words as suggested by TeamYCHEATpr is a small price to pay for this.)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. A 10 word puzzle with 2 bonus words should score 12 unless there is a separate bonus word with coins and/or those pesky bees 🐝 were involved 🤔

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Randy, to change your name on these comments, try the following:

    Access the chat forums thru the website:

    Https://Wordscapes.uservoice.com

    Then “sign in”

    Then tap “settings” (under your name)

    Then change the name used

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Gilee, wrong forum for this, but here’s your answer. Tap on your team shield on the home page, and then on the “My team” tab to see all the players on your team. The Leader is identified as such with a small crown under their name.

    Only the Leader can “boot” people from the team, so, you have to discuss that with them.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    CS, wrong forum for this but let me help guide you if I can. First, without the initial leader, the team is essentially dead since the team began with the leader. So, start a new team with the same name if you like (same names are allowed for teams). However, you can’t be on two teams at once, so whoever decides to be the new leader will have to leave the team first.

    Please search “Select team” for a way to do this for a leaderless (in spirit) team.

    In your case because the leader is actually not there, I would go to the added step of first creating a forum topic “temporary [whatever your team name is]” or whatever you want to call it so your players can at least communicate thru the forum if once they leave your old team if they have a problem.

    Once the new leader sets up the team, the other team members ask to join the new team and leave their old team.

    If the old leader doesn’t come back, I assume the old team will remain a team of 1.

    Good luck!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Peggy, we’re still able to communicate general geographic places on our team and about other things of interest, too. It comes down to how you word things. I am actually surprised what I am allowed to chat about now compared to before.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    In my opinion, I think this forum has mostly satisfied its goal. The point of this particular forum was not to remove chat restrictions but to ease them. As Pcutx points out, the restrictions are there for a reason.

    If you just started playing this game from late July 2020 onward, you missed a period of time where the chat restrictions were becoming unbearable. Before the asterisks were used, the entire chat would be discarded. Almost nothing could get through it seemed. That’s when this forum was created. At least now, one can at least convey ideas and chat even if a common word gets the asterisks treatment now and then. So, to me, the original problem of essentially being unable to chat has mostly been fixed.

    However, there are still occasions when an entire chat message gets rejected. The chat restrictions really don’t seem to like big numbers or ranges of numbers likely interpreting them as phone numbers.

    So, if your chat has lots of numbers or a range of numbers in it using a “-“ symbol (like when discussing scores), I would COPY the chat to memory before sending it. Then you can paste the text and tinker with it if it gets completely rejected.

    (As a recent example, I tried to give a range: “100-1000”. Bad choice because it looks just like a phone number, and the entire chat was rejected. Changing it to “100-1k” worked, though.)

    People are still going to be annoyed when certain phrases or words aren’t allowed, but this is a heck of a lot better than it used to be!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Pink puffy unicorn, I agree

    (I just wanted to type “pink puffy unicorn”—nice name!)

    PS. Although the asterisks are an improvement from the “dark days” months ago, the most recent chats totally rejected for me involved numbers and the word brillance.

    One solution for numbers is using short forms (ie 1k for 1000, etc).

    Another solution is just separating the numbers into their own chat bubble so the conversation carries over onto multiple line. This also works for other complex chats where it may be hard to figure out what word/phrase is causing the problem. I have no clue why, but separating out the exact same phrases into their own chat bubble will work, but written in one chat bubble, it won’t!!!!!!

    Keep having fun—I hate seeing a sad pink puffy unicorn 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Captnemo, send the game makers an email under the the “send us a message” section on the main support page voicing your concerns. They don’t read these forum topic areas.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Lee-Ann Kenyon, Racial, some violent, vulgar words amongst others are filtered in addition to words that get repeated reported by players. Yes, the chat is “biased” in that sense, but racial and religious words can also be the most abused, too.

    They are protecting us from ourselves and them from complaints as well as being able to maintain the rating for the game.

    It is frustrating for those of us who try to act responsibly, but, unfortunately, not everyone does.

    I wouldn’t take the chat restrictions too personally because EVERYONE can find something about the restrictions that annoys them or makes them feel personally targeted.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Team, part of the issue with the chat restrictions is it has been tailored to prevent solicitation and abuse of minors (noble intentions) with the collateral damage being otherwise innocent words on their own are flagged. Unfortunately, words that a child predator might use to groom an unsuspecting minor seem to be caught in the middle of this (ie “special”).

    There has to be a balance somewhere, but, in the grand scheme of things, personally I would err on the side of caution of protecting minors. For me the trade off is coming up with creative workarounds for these otherwise harmless words.

    I foresee this being a ongoing issue—for now, try to make lemonade with the lemons 🍋 we’ve been given until they come up with a better way of monitoring/filtering the chats.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Julian, thanks for the update. Don’t give up—if they can do something with chat restrictions in a few weeks time, I’m sure they can remedy the dictionary problem much quicker.

    You are not alone in your displeasure with the dictionary; I’m sure they will get the hint (maybe we need to give them 5 hints before they help us, though 😊).

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Hey Jodi,just curious, any luck freeing your name from the chat restrictions?

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Katz, I think you’re right—I managed to type some things that used to be banned, including “I am going to ride a horse”!!!!!!!!!!

    Good job everyone in your efforts at reigning in the chat restrictions—I think they may actually have done something about. 👍

    PS I am going to miss saying....well, you know.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Katz, I guess it’s like trying to manoeuvre a large ship or stopping a long train—takes a bit of time but hopefully they eventually reach their destination without hitting an ice berg or derailing.

    I know l’m not saying much here or have any profound insight, because....I just wanted to say one more time....

    FIX the CHAT RESTRICTIONS!!!!!!

    There, that felt good’

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Katz, funnily, the dictionary most seems to accept “yarn”, “strand”, and “thread” but not “brane”; there must be a theory tying this altogether—but I’m at a loss.

    FIX the CHAT RESTRICTIONS!!!

    PS. I just like typing that now—somewhat cathartic.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Silverstar, I like the idea of using an alternative universe;I hear there are lots to chose from—should be more than enough for each one of the teams!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    ...or type in code like Skyrim (although I am not a certified code breaker, I may have figured it out)

    Other alternative solutions include:

    For like minded teams—telepathy (effective until one tries to think of two things at once)

    For those in open spaces—smoke signals (not good on a windy day or at night when many of us play)

    For those who like physical play—body language (may need a powerful telescope if teammates are in different time zones)

    For those who are really smart—quantum physics (I don’t understand this one because...well, I’m not really smart)

    For everyone else, do the best you can until they FIX the CHAT RESTRICTIONS (see, I can break the code)

    😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Emma, all good suggestions.

    Besides the copy and paste before sending (which is useful for a long chat to save rewriting everything):

    for a short chat “use-dashes-between-words” (tedious but effective)

    For scores, use abbreviations 10K for 10000

    For words with no good alternative, a mizspelling is effective (if you get it past your spell checker)

    For banned common words, other similar alternatives like “telephony” for phone

    They keep asking for our patience in solving this, but I do hope the are truly working in it. I wonder though, because the crown issue (ie spring crowns being shown in the summer style) is still with us, and that looks like a more straightforward issue to solve but it hasn’t been.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    SUGGESTION: everyone concerned about this (which should be about everyone playing), address your concerns through the “send us a message” on the main forum page as I have.

    The more messages in this they get should prompt them fixing it.

    (I also suggest venting your frustrations prior to writing—they are more likely to listen and to respond)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Silverstar, from their response, it seems that words or phrases that are REPEATEDLY reported get added to the filter. This might explain the increasingly arbitrary banning of words that were once okay. I don’t think the location of the computer servers has anything to do with it—it looks to be just a poorly constructed computer filtering algorithm in my opinion.

    I have sent three separate emails to them in the last two days; the last two have not been responded to yet. I did stress the importance of this issue to us players; hopefully they are truly acting on it. Realistically, since it seems to be a computer coding issue, they’ll need some time to fix it.

    In the meantime, keep having fun as best you can and enjoy the tournament this weekend.

    😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Opal, I sent them yet another email on the issue addressing the fact that certain players names and common phrases are being flagged. I also tried to point out the different reasons people report comments, and how their current algorithm, as I understand it, is flawed (well, that was pretty obvious).

    The ball is back in their court.

    Of course, I will report back here with any new info when I get it.

    (I just say to myself now when I see the dreaded “you can’t say that”—i can’t because I am such a wonderful, beautiful person who prefers telepathy to typing. Of course, you knew that already, Opal, because you read my mind, too!)
    😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Opal, I think a key phase in their response is;

    “Also, while a word or phrase is not considered inappropriate to you, that does not mean it's not offensive to another player who may have reported it previously, and therefore it had to be added to the filter.”

    —> and THEREFORE IT HAD TO BE ADDED TO THE FILTER

    So, I infer from this is that when people report a chat comment, if words in that comment have been reported before, they get automatically added.

    The problem is, which words are the words in the chat message are truly offensive when someone reports it.—Or is it not a specific word but the overall sentiment being reported—Or is the person reporting it because they just don’t like that person and want to get rid of the comment from their chat feed.

    Unfortunately, using this type of logic, the chat can only get more and more restrictive as more things get reported for whatever reason.

    I am awaiting their next reply, but I don’t expect this to get resolved quickly.

    My solution for now is to just try to be creative in bypassing the filter—use dashes in words or purposely change the spelling of a word by one letter etc...do the best you can 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Here is their second response:

    “The system used is an automated-filter. It's not something that we usually manually add words to unless we find something that is inappropriate that slipped through the filter.

    Also, while a word or phrase is not considered inappropriate to you, that does not mean it's not offensive to another player who may have reported it previously, and therefore it had to be added to the filter. Please take these factors into consideration when you are noticing certain words and phrases being blocked. We are working hard to ensure a safe environment for all players as the app is rated Teen and above.”

    I, of course, not wanting to sleep tonight, responded—the saga continues...

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Don’t bother with a list people, I just sent them another message with my own examples.

    I suggested they keep it simple and restrict to words already banned in the puzzles and overt sexual terms (not implied), racial and religious slurs, and violent terms.

    That’s all I can suggest; hopefully common sense prevails.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    This is their response:

    “Thanks for the feedback. We are working to implement some chat filters in the game. We are trying to find a balance of how restrictive the word list should be. We appreciate you patience while we work on it. “

    Can people give me a list of words that have been “filtered” that shouldn’t be so I can follow this up

    Ie. “riding” etc...

    Thanks

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    I sent a message to People fun expressing my concerns. Presumably others posting in this forum topic have also done so.

    My solution for them was to return the restrictions to where they were a few weeks ago

    Ironically, a mean spirited person can still be very cruel and nasty in the chat (this has happened on my team already for which the only real solution is to boot them from the team and report their comments) while innocent friendly banter is censored. This protects no one.

    I suggest people who feel strongly about this also send a message saying as much. The more people complaining from different teams hopefully will make them reconsider the restrictions.

    (If we can express ourselves freely here, why not in the chat? 🤔)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Fran Murray, I agree the restrictions are very frustrating. It is almost a game within a game trying to figure it, but with no rules or rules that change arbitrarily. In their attempt to protect minors, they have gone way overboard not allowing words or phases that, in the proper context, are totally innocent.

    One glaring example is this: I could not send “you can do it”. It was obviously not in the context of some wild orgy but in the context of a close weekend tournament to a fellow teammate (were they having an orgy AND playing Wordscapes? I’ll say no)

    PEOPLE FUN—put the “fun” back in the game and put the “intelligence” back in your artificial intelligence word surveillance program by putting it back to were it was.

    Unless a team is composed completely of “really bad peoples with bad motives for minors” shall we say, teams can police themselves by reporting the comments. I have inquired about what happens to reported comments, and the game developers have told me that people can be barred from teams and tournaments. So, they do have some method of enforcement.

    Let’s just make lemonade with the lemons they’ve given us for now, but hopefully they get the message and go back to basic screening for bad words and the really obvious stuff.

    Have fun everyone.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Jimbo/Ravens,

    When I look at the world leaderboard, it shows someone with 60k at the top.

    I’m not sure what to make if this world leaderboard anymore. I think there may be internet/computer software issues accounting for some of this.

    I suspect some people’s scores are carrying over into the new month. Perhaps they were playing offline prior to when the month began, then went online and somehow updated a large score 🤔.

    I have no clue, but would be interested in knowing what’s happening with it, too.

    For now, I’ll join you Jimbo/Ravens plodding along around 400 words per hour which suits me just fine!

    Good luck everyone in the upcoming winter crown season.

    (Hopefully the early crown design will be more appealing than the bunch of thorny sticks in the fall season—that early crown kept getting tangled in my hair and birds kept wanting to nest in it!! 🙄)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    SilverStar, ...🤔...just revised the brilliance formula to take your wonderful insight into account;

    Brilliance Base Number = (Number of black satin sheets - 2) x (satin sheet sheen factor - 2) + 2

    Player Brilliance Score =
    (Brilliance Base number) x (Number of hours covered in black satin sheets)

    😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Jumbo/ Ravens, I guess read too much into your comment myself then! I never know how to interpret someone saying “I’m not saying it’s cheating, but...”—🙃

    Interestingly, my team also has a somewhat smooth progression in brilliance scores for most of them. I think that’s what happens on a longstanding team with player’s who’ve been there a long time. Any initially small differences in brilliance score become more pronounced, and player’s pass other players with time so that all the players’ scores appear more evenly spaced.

    PS With so many different teams, it would be neat to graph the brilliance scores and study the different patterns that emerge!

    (I’m sure we’ll see a lot more clouds with straight edges and lots of interesting things 🤔!)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Jimbo/ Ravens,

    Looking for patterns in Brilliance scores on teams is somewhat like looking for patterns and images in clouds. In trying to make sense of things, we make inferences and connections that are more likely based on random chance than anything else.

    Some factors that are involved in player’s brilliance scores on a team would include: how long the team has been around, the turnover rate for players on a team, the team rules (if any), the team’s competitiveness, the name of the team, the degree of engagement of the team leader, the relative puzzle levels of the player’s on the team, the relative playing activity of players on the team, and probably other factors as well.

    Again, with so many potential factors at play, only player brilliance scores at some extreme that is discordant with their puzzle level or a rate of change in brilliance score that is well beyond normal game play are the most reliable ways of identifying suspicious brilliance scores. This info is not available by just looking at the scores, but requires careful scrutiny over time and knowledge of the player’s playing habits (i.e. are they practicing a lot using already solved puzzles and do they play offline during the week).

    So, I guess my point is, trying to pick out suspicious brilliance scores on teams isn’t as straightforward or as easy as we might think.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Mugsy, the juxtaposition of a growling dog and a potato—I don’t know what it means, but it has sent me into deep introspection, especially during these trying times!

    PS I’m suddenly hungry again, but also very angry—I want those fries 🍟 now!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    ...they got too brilliant for their own good, and got burned! 🙃

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Short answer—No, not possible

    (Long answer: 1 billion brillance equivalent to playing for 10000 days [27 years] averaging 100000 brilliance per day [roughly 30k words per day].

    ..,yeah, “playing a long time”—like before the game was created, or possibly before some of the game developers were even born 🤔)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    I always have a craving for French fries 🍟 when I read the chat for some reason 🤔

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Team Juggernaut and Whamjam, that’s some serious playing going on there!

    Congratulations!

    Please tell all the details of this historic Wordscaping team tournament—you can take it to the tournament chat room if you like while I round up those loose butterflies 🦋.

    Congrats again 👏

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    The butterflies flew the coop!

    (And we all thought you could just solve words to catch them—outsmarted by an insect—again! 🙄)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Butterfly starz mee, you thought YOU were catching the butterflies 🦋—actually, it looks like the BUTTERFLIES caught you—with a computer bug! 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Annabelle, Level 1000–you’re certainly well into the game. My only advice—any words that just totally stump you (like really stop you in your tracks)—remember them!

    (They come back to haunt you...again...and again...and again in later levels!)

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    (After 6000, the level number becomes somewhat meaningless)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    24650

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    SilverStar, I had to google where your vacation spot is—an island off Portugal! Sounds amazing. I hope you have a well deserved vacation to rest those fingers (and toes!).

    You’re suggestions are fabulous. Mars really does make sense; isn’t that where most elite Wordscapes players come from anyway 🤔? Your musical selection is great; You have many talents, SilverStar, which are reflected in the credits.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Mango, Mango, Mango...I hope this is THE team. I’ve already had to restart my poll of the 10 million Wordscapes players about your choice of teams a few times now.

    Oh well, here we go again...only 9999998 to go 🙃

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    SilverStar, oh my—a close race amongst top players. This is a scary thought. Not the close games, but knowing how competitive you top players are, you will be trying everything (legally—right) possible to get that extra edge. I suspect that the black satin sheets may have been shed along with any particle of clothing that could impede your swiping of words. I’m trying to imagine a team of 50 all doing this scattered around the globe—ok, no, don’t try to imagine this! 🙃

    Good luck—(and don’t catch a cold)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Shell, this is like a metaphor for living your life. Things can change/end unexpectedly, so don’t take things for granted. Enjoy what you have while you have it with those that mean the most in your life.

    Sometimes it takes a silly game to remind us of the big picture.

    I’m just taking this one day at a time—see you tomorrow; if not, you already know how I feel about all of you, and that’s what counts 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    SilverStar, thanks! Had to start playing again totally wrecking my shiny brilliance score.

    All is not lost, though—i’m going for 1010101 next 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Jazzy, thanks! I made a point of reaching it before the tournament started just for that reason. At least I had 1 day to bask in the glow of the shimmering 0’s!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Annabelle, I know your intentions are in the right place especially with the closing of this space, but that might be crossing one of those privacy lines again since young people also use this game.

    (It’s like asking for contact info from others which we really shouldn’t be doing on a site like this.)

    That’s just my opinion—besides, half the fun if this place is using one’s imagination here—it’s a bit of an escape from the sometimes harsh realities of life beyond the game.

    (Bear with me, I’m still riding my million brilliance high—I don’t want it to end! 😊)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    My Wordscapes dreams are now complete...just nailed 1000000 brillance on the nose 😎!

    One benefit of not being on Facebook is the new leaderboard. When you check the Facebook friends part, you’re always number 1 at the top!!!

    Have a great weekend everyone while I still ride my million brilliance high 🙃

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Some of Eeyore’s favourite words while playing Wordscapes:

    “piglet”, “bear”, “honey”, “robin”, “tail”, “bow”, “woe”...

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Charlie, if you can read this, then you can still go to the
    TOURNAMENT to Chat
    sometime 😉

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Silverstar, are you ready for your close up? It all finally came together thanks to SwedishChef 😊

    (See you in the TOURNAMENT to Chat sometime 😉)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    [deleted user], good perspective—thank you! 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PaddlingNana(Canoe not spanks), thanks for creating this space.

    With a name like that, you’re obviously a true canoeist. Canoeing just happens to be my passion. The fall colours are starting to come out here in Newfoundland. My plan is to go for an early morning paddle on the Humber tomorrow. (That’s if I can put a few points on the board first tonight—having a somewhat lethargic tournament so far.)

    Nothing beats being on the water this time of year. Peace and solitude—except for the odd beaver. On the water, life’s worries float away with the current.

    Thanks again for starting this forum. It’s been a source of joy for so many.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Mugsy, I haven’t been on here near as long as you nor have I developed the deep kindred friendships with people that I know you have. But if I feel as sad about this as I do, I can only imagine what you’re feeling. You’re not alone—I feel your pain.

    Sincerely,
    🥦

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Scoop, I thought you got stuck in a snowstorm or something down under!

    I’m pretty sure the anonymous thing had nothing to do with this—anonymous had done that before with no effect.

    PeopleFun see this forum as obsolete. If you ever look at the PeopleFun link, they sound pretty corporate—maximizing profits and stuff. Facebook = money for them.

    If they really cared about their players, they would create a space for everyone. My last email to them said as much; you can do the Facebook thing but also have somewhere for non Facebook users.

    Will they listen? Who knows. They did change the chat restrictions, but they may only have done that because of the potential loss of “customers” rather than to actually make our experience more enjoyable. Of course, these things aren’t mutually exclusive.

    Maybe if people encourage other people on their teams WHO DO use Facebook to complain in the new Facebook forum on our behalf, they may accommodate us. Let them know that many on their team don’t use it (ie all the smart ones).

    Hopefully enough people will realize what is being lost here—this is a small corner of free speech and personal expression about a game we all love with people we’ve come to love (and sometimes despise).

    Free of ads and free of politics (ok, except for those team Trumps), this is a far cry from Facebook.

    Scoop, read Katz’ post below about Reddit.

    Take care &

    Best wishes,

    No-hints-but-I’m-not-better-than-you-Tippytoes

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Shell,

    I’m passing on drinking the Facebook kool-aid.

    On happier note, I want to say thanks again to you and your group who were posting here in December when I first started. I’d never ventured into forums like this before, but I got a real sense of a community of caring people like yourself. The world needs more of people like you and your friends here.

    Best wishes to you.

    PS. Check out my new forum under the new tab...

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Doofus, you’re right!

    Let’s make the most of it!!!!

    😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Doofus, I’m still answering new questions in the forums and it feels so good! Part of my therapy, I guess. I also feel like a captain going down with the ship, though.

    I hate to share the response from my last email to PeopleFun, but I think the ship hit a pretty big ice berg:

    “ The old system is becoming obsolete and we are moving on to other newer options..,We hope you will join us on Facebook. ”

    🤬

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Doofus, I’ve heard about that before. I’m not really into the social media stuff, though. To be honest, I found posting here to be very stressful on my psyche—I take these things too personally especially if I upset someone with my comments.

    I might check out the reddit sometime to keep in touch. Thanks for reminding me about it.

    Right now, it just feels like we all got kicked out of a big beautiful house that had a room for everything, and now we’re just scrambling to find a friend’s couch to sleep on for the night.

    I still feel really sad about all this. It’s almost as if someone close to me had died; it’s a real visceral feeling of loss. I guess that’s what happens when you share a passion for something with others and it’s suddenly taken away. I don’t know. It makes no sense to my logical mind.

    I could always come here for a laugh, especially reading the latest from the Mad Aussie, Paul Young; the latest experiment from SwedishChef; or the witty stories of SilverStar. This has been a real happy place for me the last few months.

    ...oh yeah, to answer your question, yes it does appeal to me, but I might take my time getting there 😊

    PS. I never give a short answer to anything,

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    D😊😊fus

    (Had to do that one last time—you also look better without the quotation marks)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Katz, I genuinely had to keep from crying myself while writing that. I also just got the update—it sucks. Ironically, on my iphone with the old version, the heart of hearts was complete. But when I see it now thru the website, it’s literally half a heart—a broken heart...and that’s how I feel.

    I’m was never very good at writing. but some things are easy to write when they come from the heart.

    I’ll really miss this place because of the great people who made it. Thanks Katz for your biting wit. Take care.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Charlie, I remember seeing your chats early on when I first started this game. You had a tight group of caring, thoughtful, and kind people in your circle. So, your comment means a lot. Thank you and best wishes.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Doofus, let’s just say it involves a lounge chaise, black satin sheets, and using one’s toes. It’s all a happy memory now, but somewhere in all that there was also a game of Wordscapes!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    ...always...thanks again, SilverStar.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Why am I so upset by this?

    This is just a user forum for talking about a word game, right? I don’t even know any of you?

    But this has been a journey for me. It started as an addiction playing this fun word game. I studied the game trying to figure out how to solve those stupid bonus words without using hints because, well, I had none. Searching for answers led me to this funny place here where strangers were engaged in all sorts of conversations—some about the game, some not, but all interesting just the same.

    Reading the other forums, it became quickly apparent that many people had just as many questions about the game as I had. So, I tried to help answer those questions where I could.

    Along the way, this normally reserved nerdy introvert got bashed around a few times in the Wordscapes tournament cheating forum, got a marriage proposal in the same said forum, got sent to time out a few times in this forum (Katz won’t read this, right), and got something out of this game I never ever expected—a sense of community and belonging with a group of wonderful total strangers from all over the world 🌎!

    For that, I’m forever grateful.

    I don’t know what the future holds for this online space, but I do know I’m not a Facebook social media person, so I won’t be going there.

    That’s why I want to say thank you to everyone here while I still can.

    I

    ♥️❤️❤️♥️ ♥️❤️❤️♥️
    ♥️❤️❤️ ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️♥️
    ♥️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️♥️
    ♥️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️♥️
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    You
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    May everyone’s journey continue to be a safe and fun one! Enjoy the game.

    Tippytoes
    Newfoundland, Canada 🇨🇦

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Inspiration, yes, that works when you know this exists. Once they remove a link via the game, new players won’t access this in the future because they won’t even know it’s here.

    It also took me a while to figure out this was accessible from outside of the game; I’m sure I’m not alone. Many people that access these forums now would have no clue how to find this if the game people removed the in game link.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. The game developers obviously don’t read these forums. If they do, they obviously have stopped responding to the questions asked. This has resulted in players trying to help others as best we can—we are doing their job, so it would be very short sighted for them to stop these forums. These forums add to the overall game experience and help a player get the most out of the game in my opinion.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Ruffian, there is an element of truth to that especially if you look at a thread like this. However, when you look at the new ideas being posted everyday, they are the mostly questions, feedback, and real problems about the game. Many of these get little response. Because the support forums accessed thru the game are ranked by “what’s hot”, you rarely see many of these new posts unless you scroll well down the forum list.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Doofus, from what you say then, it doesn’t sound good. I haven’t heard back from them yet either...🤔

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    I just emailed them about them asking if they were shutting it down. They asked me for more info. So, i think it might be news to them, too!

    (I’ll let you know any follow up)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Gilee, this is in response to your question about finding out how long you’ve been playing in the tournaments. The team tournaments started up the last week in March (I think 🤔). If you first joined a team after that time, I’m not aware of how you’d figure it out other than remembering it for yourself.

    As for the individual star tournaments, I’m not aware of records for this other than what a player might document for themselves. For example, I usually take a screenshot of my final placement in the weekend tournament as a permanent record for myself (if I did really well, you might call it a trophy shot).

    (In reviewing my “trophy shots”, I was reminded how 1st place used to get 2000 coins—aahhh, those were the days!)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Gilee, see also my response on Sept 9 in “team members who don’t play”

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Gilee, see “select team leader” for my thoughts

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    (🤔...yeah, I probably just should have said that instead)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Joe, I was just trying to illustrate how the concept of time and newness is all relative. In the land of Wordscapes, everything is slower and drawn out over a longer period of time. So a team can still be relatively “new”, even after a few weeks.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Joe, Wordscapes uses a quasi geological time scale. For example, the Wordscape’s equivalent to a 100 m dash (ie a 10 second race) is a 1-2 hour “sprint” at the end of a 53 hour long tournament.

    You’ve heard the phrase, “don’t blink or you’ll miss it”. Well, when following the leaderboard, the Wordscape’s equivalent is, “don’t take the dog out for too long of a walk, or you’ll miss the update in scoring”.

    So, a “new” team in the land of Wordscapes is a team that slowly emerges from the burnt embers of defunct teams usually over the course of some weeks.

    (Once the “new” team has formed, if a “new” player is added a week later, the team is now “new and improved”.)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Dianne, more details are needed to understand what you’re talking about

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Joe, one last thing, if you can’t talk about something in your team chat with others on your team, you probably shouldn’t be talking about it all! Someone creating a “private” team to “talk” about stuff is a big red flag 🚩 from my point of view. Private one on one conversations shouldn’t be taking place here—that’s not part of the game. It is a set up for misuse and abuse.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Joe, I hope the real “joe” also reads your posts in his name.

    Please also don’t give out your real name or any other personal info (age, contact info, etc...) in these forums (or any chats, even “in private”)—for your own protection.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    SilverStar, yes, you’re absolutely right. I was hoping a little of ET1’s and Mugsy’s magic would rub off on me for an extra star or two.

    ...instead, the experiment went awry probably earning me a 🥔

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Kamuela, my preliminary studies without clothes are in total agreement with your findings as well. However, unfortunately, any advantage in speed was lost when I spilled the Mac and cheese!

    The clean up was messy, and my tournament score never fully recovered. As a result, all further investigations were stopped immediately. I now play wearing a full hazardous materials suit when eating Mac and cheese.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Inkspiration, apparently, only if they’re also eating Mac and cheese.

    PS. Without clothes, there is slightly less drag on the forearms, and the stimulation of the gentle cool breeze up one’s back probably gives a person at least 1 extra star over the course of a 53 hour tournament. More study is needed, though.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Yes, I’m interested, too.

    Our team had an “epic battle” for 2nd in our tournament, but presumably this other “epic battle” is likely an order of magnitude more “epic”! (Epic to the epic power?)

    (You can post the juicy details of high scores and team scores in the tournament forum when you’ve recovered from the word hangover)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Dare I ask the stats on this one? Yes...of course!! Spill the beans please. 😊

    (You can share it in the tournament chat forum when the dust settles.)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Just posted another area to recruit players for teams:

    “TEAMS looking to merge with teams”

    Use this if your team has 40 players or less and you want to merge with another small team to fill out your team in one shot.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Game of crowns,

    “...and give/get helps like they’re a bowl of Halloween candy left on the step unsupervised”

    I just love that! 👍

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    ...only 9,999,998 to go...😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Mango, I’ll let you know after I finish my poll of 10 million Wordscapes players about your choice—the results will be ready in 10 years—keep enjoying the game till then!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    (Just to clarify, by “it”, I mean the daily prize!)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, not for me. Try restarting the app. Some players in other forums periodically report not getting it.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Mango, your previous leader, KJ, seems very astute and was trying to help you. I would read what they had to say. Every team is different; some teams are very chatty, others are not. But if you are on a chatty team and no one is chatting to you, then you may be trying too hard to be the centre of attention. By this I mean, try to be more selective in chatting to teammates, especially on a new team. Otherwise, you may overwhelm your teammates to the point that they don’t want to engage with you at all. Less is more sometimes.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, please stop posting these website links. Wrong forum and wrong audience (children use this site)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Wordsmithwick, yes indeed! The early crowns look like they’re carved from wood (old driftwood washed up on a beach or fallen branches from a forest floor—maybe trampled on by moose?). If it’s metal, it’s left over tin recycled from cans of spam from the 40’s, again, trampled on by moose. The brown paint they used—wait, (sniff, sniff), that’s not paint (the moose strike again)!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    SwedishChef, ...all for a virtual crown 👑!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Players may not be aware of why they get booted from a team. As a general statement, KJ’s point about repeated boots from teams should make a player take a good look at their conduct on those teams

    Every team is different and some have specific rules. But I think there are some common principles to teams. See “10 ways not to get BOOTED from a team”. See if any of those listed apply if you get the boot from a team.

    For interpersonal conflicts on a team, I think general rules of civility prevail on most teams:

    - be respectful of others
    - no abusive language
    - no racial, sexual, or offensive language

    Some of these things are so obvious to most that we don’t need to be warned in advance that these won’t be tolerated on most teams.

    In general, if a person doesn’t like the rules of other teams and is repeatedly booted—maybe the solution is to create their own team.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Katz, that seems to be right—2000 just gives a greater degree of certainty

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. Can anyone spare a hint and a few coins, I’m running low! 🙄

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Posts have been removed; just remember, 2000 words per hour or more suggests computer manipulation

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Katz, I responded to you—would you care to check out the other room.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Sorry, I keep getting lost in this place and go to the wrong room. The chats are moved.

    (Mar, see “Wordscapes tournament cheating” thread for posts)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. Hints obtained through normal gameplay or through buying them through the game maker are perfectly legitimate. But some people use computer manipulation to obtain essentially unlimited hints as a form of cheating. (Hints used continuously through computer manipulation can quickly run up a score and even overtake elite players.)

    In this context of being accused of cheating, by saying I use no hints at all eliminates the possibility of me using unlimited hints to cheat.

    “FYI, I truly don’t use any hints at all to play” is just a quicker (but less precise) way to say all that!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Paul young, I know hints are part of the game, and I certainly don’t equate using hints with cheating.

    I was just trying to stress that I approach this game purely using my own skill without any type of assistance, either legitimate (like hints) or illegitimate (like computer manipulation). I don’t take shortcuts.

    (Thats why I keep getting stumped by “tree”).

    And no, I’m not a better person for not using hints. (It’s just more of a personal challenge and satisfying experience when you do it all on your own.)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    David Phillips, I know I take a lot of criticism on the “Wordscapes cheating” thread for defending high scores—but my intent is to defend those who score legitimate high scores; recognizing that these scores will overlap with those who do cheat. It might look suspicious, but that’s all I’m trying to do there.

    (FYI: I truly don’t use any hints at all when I play)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    David Phillips, no hard feelings here—I just didn’t know where you were going with things. Keep enjoying the game.

    Game of Crowns, thank you for your support; much appreciated 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    David Phillips, thank you. 👍

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    David Phillips, what you are doing is crossing a line to personal harassment.

    I post my thoughts on the game to share what I know to try and help others especially those new to the game.

    I obviously enjoy the game.

    But what you are encouraging people to do is inappropriate.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Jillian, I just play on my phone. I went thru my browser to the website and did it via my phone. It worked for me. Then again, I’m special! (🙄)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Jillian, I just changed my name to TT—so it does indeed work. I’m changing my name back now.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Sapphire, you are so right about the hints.

    During the weekdays, it is fairly easy to be requesting 3 hints per day (morning, midday, and evening) as a minimum. That’s 15 free hints during the week (💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡) which is equivalent to 1500 coins if you have a helping team.

    For perspective, first place for a team in the weekend tournament only gives you 1000 coins or the equivalent of 10 hints! So, just by getting a basic number of free hints during the weekdays, you’re already further ahead than if your team had placed first in the weekend tournament.

    If you’re a beginner player on a team and you use hints, maximizing these free hints only makes sense.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, if you are referring to your profile here, you can modify your name through the web site: https://wordscapes.uservoice.com

    Just sign in using the email address you used to post your comment (the sign in is near the bottom). Once signed in, just beneath your name, click on “settings”. At the bottom, you can edit your name and email address.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    There’s always 2 sides to every story, isn’t there, and In the case of teams—maybe 50. SilverStar gave very sage advice as usual—let it go, people. Focus on the upcoming tournament (I just finished writing out the word “tree” 50 times—it will never stump me again! 🙄)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Jillian, how these forum topics are ranked can differ depending on whether you’re viewing them through the game or thru the uservoice web site.

    The web site allows you to sort by what’s hot (the default setting), by what’s top rated, and by what’s new. The game seems to use the what’s hot filter.

    I think the algorithm they use for what’s hot is based on the comment activity level, while for what’s top is based on likes or “I want this” numbers. So, to increase a forum topic’s rank using the hot filter, people have to keep actively commenting in the forum topic more so than other topics ahead of it....I think 🤔!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Hi SilverStar, there is a bit of a lag time for the display of the number of people playing online. It seems to depend on one’s internet connection and the app updating the number. I find I need to wait at 5-10 seconds sometimes before the number changes from 0. If I’m unsure whether it’s updating, I find that closing the app and restarting it triggers a fresh update for the online number.

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    PS. Joyce, check the number of players on your team online (the number at the top left when you’re in the chat). If that number is 0—then no one on your team is currently playing online, you need 5 of your teammates responding to your help request to get a hint 💡.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Joyce, on the home page, tap the “cog” icon top left corner for settings. Ensure chat is set to on. Then tap on your team shield icon in the middle at the bottom. There, you can chat and “request” help.

    If you have done all this and no one responds to your comments or responds to your help requests, then;

    If you could chat and request help before but not now, then there might be something screwy with your app (try restarting or requesting help thru support “send us a message”)

    If this is your first time chatting and requesting help but no one responds ...the problem is with your team!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    TeamYCHEATpr, the ghost crown phenomenon (I guess I’ll call it that) last season was because the game developers were trying to let people who hadn’t entered the summer tournament keep their winter crown.

    The only problem was, instead of showing the winter crown in its winter format, it was shown in the summer format. So, you had some people with an apparent top summer crown right when the summer season started! (It was just their winter crown because, ironically, they hadn’t started the summer tournament yet.)

    So, if you could follow all this—everyone gets a coin! (In spirit at least).

    Maybe that’s what happening to some this season, too. If it is, the problem is localized (perhaps it happens to people who don’t have the latest update? 🤔).

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    You shouldn’t, are they higher than the 50 point crown? If so? It’s a software glitch I’d say; otherwise, perhaps someone had a midweek tournament prior to this weekend. (Everyone on my team doesn’t have a crown )

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    This also applies to your own team. If you accidentally leave your team once the tournament starts, and then quickly rejoin—even though it’s the same team, you’re then “nonparticipating” and your points won’t count.

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    PS You’re only going to to see the “nonparticipating” if you’re already on a team—so that was my assumption.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Yeah, you’re right—thanks for keeping me on my toes! It’s meant for people already on a team from switching.

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    If you’re on a team when the tournament starts, you’re a participant (ie your points count towards your team and you can share any winnings).

    If you join a team AFTER the tournament starts, you’re “nonparticipating”. Your points won’t count for your team and you won’t receive any of the winnings. This is meant to deter people from joining a winning team near the end of the tournament just to get part of the loot.

    (Your points will count for your individual tournament as usual, though.)

    So if you want to switch teams or join a new team, it’s best to do it BEFORE the tournament starts.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS I like your confidence—already to count your winnings this weekend 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    KJ—pssst, ignore the people saying it’s divided by the number of people playing—it’s always divided by 50...

    ...regardless of the number of players on the team, the number of people playing, the number of people not playing, the number of people wishing they were playing, the number of people who said they’d play but didn’t play, or the number of people yet to play...🙃

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    KJ, the rationale is to encourage full 50 member teams, so I don’t see them changing this. Besides, with more players on your team, the better your team score will be if everyone plays.

    You are correct (from what I understand) that in order to get any of the winnings you have to have at least participated in the tournament—so, 0 points gets 0 winnings, but 1 point or more gets 1/50 of the winnings.

    It’s also how you look at a team. People of all different backgrounds, abilities, ages, learning disabilities, and fluency with language can be on a team. What might be easy for some may be difficult for others. Some people can only play a little on weekends due to work, family, or personal commitments. In my opinion, any points contributed are good points. We beat another team for 2nd by 50 points one week; so someone scoring 100 points that week would have been the difference. Every point counts, no matter how small. That’s my philosophy about this game—but that’s also why I’m not on a “top” team. If you look at this game from the point of view of purely winning tournaments, then my philosophy doesn’t cut it and you have to be stricter with who plays and how much they contribute. It’s a choice each team needs to make.

    Regardless, keep having fun—it’s a game 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    KJ, winnings are divided by 50 regardless of number of players on team and the number of players who play.

    My understanding is a player has to score at least 1 point thereby entering them onto the tournament to be able to share any winnings.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    FYI: I just posted a forum:

    “LOST Players (hoping to be found)”

    Use it as a lost and found for players so to speak (ie you leave your team and can’t get back or are having technical problems with your device that prevents you from chatting with your team)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Roonie, hopefully you’ve moved on by now. CS’s comment about taking a brief break or extended break when really stuck helps me, too.

    Also, keep mixing up those letters in the letter wheel (do it again and again after taking your break).

    If you have some letters In the word, try pronouncing the letters you have (in your head or aloud)—it may trigger the word.

    Don’t forget about prefixes and suffixes for words.

    If you don’t have hints or a know it all child nearby (they always solve these things and make us look silly), use brute force and ignorance by going thru the letter combinations one by one (can’t be more than 600-700, right?).

    You’ll get it 👍

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Omnomnom, sounds like you had quite the showdown. For the rest of us who are curious about these mythical battles, could you post the final tally and number of people scoring over 10k etc...you can take it to our “Tournament chat” room if you wish.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Andrew, while you wait for a response here, send an email to support on the main page under “send us a message”. Hopefully they can help, too.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    😳

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Just a reminder to people before the tournament starts tomorrow, there is a new forum “TOURNAMENT chat” intended for friendly chat and banter between players in their solo tournaments and between different teams during the tournament. Have a fun tournament everyone!

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    Thanks for the explanation, Blizzard. I don’t know you, but I like you, your spirit, and sense of humour—😊

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    TeamYCHEATpr, I chose to delete my Wile E Coyote parody team request for 2 reasons: first, I somehow feel responsible for triggering this. Although in my mind I was having fun with the concept of the road runner character running from team to team, i can see how others could see it as piling on or even bullying the Roadrunner player, which really wasn’t my intent, but my imagination got ahead of my better judgement. So the next post by an anonymous player really took me aback with its hostility, and I obviously felt I had triggered this hostility with my preceding post or was just adding to more fuel to the fire so to speak with whatever the problem was. Second, it appears the another player may have subsequently deleted all their posts around this, so my post doesn’t need to stay either. So, for whatever role my post may have contributed to all this, I apologize to everyone in this chat.

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    Mugsy, it really wasn’t in response to the current circumstances. I always thought it would be cool just to say “great job” to the person who leaves me their dust, or to just acknowledge great head to head play.

    I still remember one weekend just going back and forth late at night and then the following morning with another player till one of us finally gave way. I’m sure this happens every weekend both at the individual and the team level.

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    On a lighter note, I just posted a new forum topic: “TOURNAMENT Chat” to be used for friendly banter between fellow competitors during your individual tournament or on a different team.

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    For peoples’ info, I created a second general chat forum for when this common chat gets “busy” (search: “Game chat...”)

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    Anonymity is everywhere, so Anonymous and their clan certainly get around.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Zoe, (at least I can spell that), if I can be serious, this is Sir Tippy Middle Toe, don’t take me seriously. 😊

    (This midweek tournament is making me loopy—I’m a player level 7 right now on the SwedishChef insanity scale.)

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    I know WizeOwzl Team Leader, I’m just trying to be a wise owl and goof around. It would be hard to take me seriously anyway with a name like Tippytoes.

    Paul Young (aka Scoop of MadAussies Utd) has the best of both worlds—he tells hilarious jokes and stories, and then, he dims the lights and says in a hushed tone, “if I can be serious for a moment”, and we have to take him seriously because, his name is Paul Young (a very serious name indeed). When I do that, “this is Tippytoes, if I can be serious for a moment”—wait, stop snickering, see what I mean. Time to go back to my bunker.

    PS WizeOwzl Team Leader—you’re name is really hard to spell and get past the spell checker on my phone—it’s taken me 10 minutes just to type your name!

    Keep having fun 😊

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    Our team’s winning strategy is to play and have fun—oops, I gave it away 🙄

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    🤭

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    SwedishChef, I’m always learning something about this game. I knew you didn’t earn coins for redoing old puzzles, but I didn’t realize you still got credit for brillance (I just assumed you didn’t because there were no brillance animations.)

    This might explain some disparities I’ve noticed between puzzle levels and brillance levels (maybe or maybe not 🤔).

    PS. Mugsy Bar, by the sounds of it, you got off easy JUST losing a thumbprint—count yourself lucky!

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    Wordsmithwick, what can I say, it’s dark in the bunker—I keep all the sheets in alphabetical order; I must have grabbed the satan sheets by mistake (Silverstar will be in for a surprise—rather than being silky like satin, they’re slithery , slimy, and soul-less, not to mention the rash they leave. Oops.)

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    Silverstar/silverfish, 🤣🤣🤣 as always! Back to my bunker now.

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    Silverstar,

    thanks for the inside scoop. So, SwedishChef has commandeered your team for these tests. According to the Geneva Conventions for Wordscapes play, as long as he is feeding you an adequate supply of vowels, he has not broken any punishable laws. (Please also refer to the 1000 page tome of Wordscapes rules that came with the app for further details on this—I believe it’s rule 435 c, the part about enslaving teammates for the unnatural studying of brillance.)

    Your concerns are otherwise fully justified, Silverstar. I’ve sent you an emergency supply of freshly linened black satan sheets to aid in your recovery. The exposed phalanx bones of your fingers says it all—this testing is clearly pushing the boundaries of the game, and not in a good way. I fear it has led to a Tournament race—mid week tournaments are popping up everywhere in the quest for ultimate brillance. Where will all this end?

    Fortunately, because of recent changes to chat filters, the Wordscapes word police are no longer spending their time confiscating objectionable chat like “great game, grandma, you are the best!” or “what a beautiful day today”. They can now help protect players such as yourself who are aimlessly plowing through puzzles under the direction of their SwedishChef overlord in the quest for maximum brillance.

    The word police have a SWAT team ready to extract you and your fellow human Guinea pigs from the dictionary dungeon should you need it. This is very important, Silverstar, pay attention because this can only be written once, for fear SwedishChef gets his phone back on line (he’s only using that computer thingy, so, he can’t read this—besides, no one reads the general chat, right?). I got this code word directly from the word police commander (I think his name was Kenny, but I’m not sure)—to save the Wordscapes world and yourself, just type *************.

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    SwedishChef, your “tests” intrigue me. I trust they are being conducted to the highest ethical standards and animals aren’t involved. Do the the tests involve burnt out players from weekend tournaments? If not, do you, heaven forbid, conduct them on yourself?

    They said the 10k brilliance per hour could never be broken, but you’ve proven them wrong. Although there was a slight dimming to the sun, the overall effects of breaking this barrier remain largely unknown. The last person to try this, Phonetic Eddie, has never been heard from since...he was last seen conjugating verbs and mumbling to himself; a shame, actually, because he was also very close to solving the “caramilk secret”—you know, how they get the caramel in the chocolate squares.

    Anyway, stay safe and congratulations on the breakthrough. Til the effects of this are fully known, I’m heading back into my bunker for now.

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    Kamuela ... more complicated than I thought. Must get back to my tiddlywinks, now. I’ll leave the heavy lifting of investigating this further to you and SwedishChef. 😊

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    Kamuela, is there an Imperial unit conversion for “kcph” or “kwph”? 🤔

    (If there is, it probably is a body part, perhaps 1776 tongues = 1000 coins or words = 1 kw)

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    Abbey, the last time to enter the weekend tournament is around 1 pm central time on Sunday

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    30k right on the nose is a mic drop moment! Amazing Ruffian!!!!

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    Kamuela, chat doesn’t have to be on for one to request or receive help, it just looks a lot less personal (the help bars show up on blank screen where the chat normally would be)

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    Silverstar, sorry to hear about the toe—I’ll watch where I step. Just like a simple 3 letter word can sometimes stop us in our tracks in this game (ok, stop me at least), a small affliction to a toe or tooth can also sometimes do the same in real life. Take it easy—a little ice and a compress (made of black satin of course) might help.

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    (Silverstar, your response to roselynnelopez wasn’t there when I first replied, otherwise I wouldn’t have posted. Didn’t mean to step on your toes—especially after how proficient you’ve become using them to solve puzzles! 😏)

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    roselynnelopez, teams may use the chat to strategize and synchronize team play. If you don’t have the chat on, you’re then out of the loop.

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    Frostwood, You guys/gals on Plantagenet have a great team—I still remember the whopping you gave us weeks back.

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    Gwen, there was a similar “incident” weeks ago. It may have had something to do with time zones where the player was playing—they had a 1 hour head start on everyone else through no fault of their own. How they played the rest of the tournament should tell you if there is anything else to this. Not everything is cheating (I give some scenarios of scoring in “Wordscapes tournament scoring” for reference; there is also a Wordscapes cheating forum)

    The game developers also supposedly have software to detect cheating.

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    Lark, expanding on what Cable said, although you may not find this game challenging, there are people who do for a variety of reasons that include: young people without the vocabulary, people (young or old) with poor memories, people with cognitive deficits, people with visual impairment, and people just learning the language. None of these reasons imply anything about a person’s brillance (or game brillance).

    PS. Cable, I hope Harvard Medical school is not involved in this game—the dumbing down of the dictionary would not make them look very good if that was the case!

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    Lark, you’re confusing game “brillance” with brillance. Game brilliance only reflects a player’s experience with the game. Having a minimum game brillance helps a team tell whether the player has at least played to a certain level. Some teams want as many players as possible playing in the weekend tournament, so, they use game brillance as a gauge of whether that player has been playing a lot. It is a flawed number because it doesn’t tell one the length of time it took to get that score. A better gauge of tournament play is crown status, but that has its own limitations early on in the crown season.

    I thought the repetitive nature of the game would turn me off the game, too. But I’ve chosen to still look at the puzzle squares to try and solve the puzzles rather than to memorize words based on the letters in the puzzle. Sure, you’re going to remember some words with enough repetition, but that is a good thing for me because I’ve learned some new words along the way. I also don’t use hints. I then try to go as fast as I can—despite having seen these words over and over, the game remains challenging (and therefore enjoyable) for me playing this way. I can still get stuck on a word for 20 minutes sometimes.

    I’m not on a top scoring team, but I don’t begrudge their enthusiasm or intensity. For me, it adds to the fun atmosphere of the tournaments. Yeah, Wordscapes is just a game, just like football, baseball, cricket, and rugby are just fun sports. Some people just get into them more than others.

    PS no, it’s not Harvard medical school, but the game tries to be sometimes by slipping in medical terms now and then

    Keep having fun!

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    Omnomnom, I have no inner rhythm, but I give you a big thumbs up 👍! Great job!

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    StarLord WS, sounds like ‘amnesia’ level 1584 will become a Wordscapes proficiency test for joining a team, like a SAT score.

    I hope to score 21—so, I might as well forget about it 🙄.

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    Serious playaz, I think they are still testing the midweek tournament and other games. Presumably the same people get them so they can track usage using the same sample of players/guinea pigs. (I would assume the initial randomization was the selection of the test group of players some weeks ago.)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    ....oh, Mugsy Bar, you’ve been throwing them all this time—would explain all the potatoes in my yard! 🙄

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    RedMountainPass, best wishes and stay safe! 😊

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    ...they’ll come in handy for all those potatoes 🥔

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    Mugsy bar, I use my formula for estimating words from a brillance score. Because of the seeming randomness of puzzles lengthens and word lengths; it is a relatively good predictor of a word score.

    The biggest confounding variable is the bonus words which muddy the predictive strength of my formula. For an average team like mine, the effect is relatively small, but for a team that maximizes bonus words, the effect might be greater.

    Thanks again for the new insight into the game—my brain just sprouted another neuron! (It makes up for the ones I lose when I bang my head against the wall trying to solve some words)

    PS. I’ve ordered you some more napkins.

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    PS. ...you must have gone through a lot of napkins!

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    Mugsy bar, very interesting; did you get that from observation/counting words/letters of multiple puzzles?

    That would explain some of the variation I see using my formula; the remaining variation would be the bonus words.

    (I initially started counting words/ letters on puzzles trying to figure it out, but I got a headache and became cross eyed after only a few puzzles 🤪)

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    ...that last one should put an end to any marriage proposals!

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    Silverstar, unfortunately, the formula doesn’t help me solve the word “tree”, my arch nemesis, or prevent me from spending 30 minutes trying to fit 7 letters into a word that only has room for 6, my latest puzzle gaffe....

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    (I use the formula for calculating the words from a brillance score; the 3:1 brilliance to words is a close enough conversion ratio)

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    Sorry—

    That should read;

    Words = (0.31)*brillance + 9.6

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    (The formula I use based on linear regression of brilliance and words taken from samples of tournament play from the last couple of months is:

    Brillance = (0.31)*words + 9.6

    This formula includes bonus words, so it may not be entirely accurate, but it is close enough.)

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    Jimbo, you are spot on. As Opal said, each puzzle has its own brillance assigned to it. The game developers won’t reveal how it’s calculated (like some secret sauce recipe), but brillance is linearly related to words by a roughly 3:1 ratio.

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    Bruno, thanks, sounds like the magical tool I’ve been looking for!

    Paul young, I think you’re on to something, too—instead of swiping, your wiping your data and if you don’t like the results, just flush it. To archive your data, I assume you use 2 ply (probably good enough for 6 months, any longer, I would go with the traditional birch bark)

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    WizeOwlz Team Leader, ok thanks. From your answer I infer that you input the data manually, too, then.

    (Bruno, I don’t use excel, but I am fiddling around with an Access database including doing some VBA coding. To my chagrin, one almost has to learn VBA coding to do anything useful with Access—this is definitely driving me certified nuts, though 🤪!!!!! since I’m not computer savvy by nature. My stuff is more for some team fun rather than competitive analytics; regardless, it is a big headache trying to get the bugs worked out.)

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    For those who helped me with the data requests and for those who are new to the game and wonder about the tournament scoring, I posted my stuff under “Wordscapes tournament scoring”.

    These are just my thoughts in trying to understand the scoring and maybe help new players recognize what is just normal and good play.

    Sorry to those I’ve annoyed along the way in the process.

    Keep having fun people.

    Tippytoes (et al) over and out
    😊

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    WizeOwlz Team Leader, you appear to do a lot of stats for your team. I do a few for mine, too, but I was hoping there was an easier way. I currently use screen shots of the team brillance scores and manually enter the data, which can be prone to error. I play via an iPhone, and I can’t seem to access the data any other way but for this brute force and ignorance method. Any other magical way of doing this? Thanks.

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    Annabelle, on a team already, thanks. Good luck with your team!

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    Thanks Inkspiration. It would be interesting it know the max words per hour for the player who broke 40000.

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    ...I know, but I always wanted to sign my name like that (sounds more authoritative than Tippytoes) 😊

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    Katz, no worries.

    This chat thing is interesting, though. When one reads a previous chat/text, it is like reading a newspaper or book or whatever. But when someone engages you real time with chat, as Randy did, everything seems to change—I find it is like a cross between writing and talking with a greater need to respond in real time and less time for thoughtful reflection.

    Regardless if Randy is the genuine Randy or a troll, my response was directed not so much at Randy but for others who may think similarly and read this chat. So I engaged the topic.

    I probably wouldn’t have responded if I saw the same text 12 hours later for the reasons you give (all caps—always a red flag, etc...), but it was happening in real time.

    Sincerely,
    Et al

    😊

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    Sorry to set you guys off—just looking for some data here and got blindsided by Randy in real time. I should have invited him into the Wordscapes cheating zone first before offering him a drink in the general chat zone, but one thing lead to another, and, .... Did I mention I was sorry?

    Ps. Dare I ask you for a high score—ok, never mind...

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Mar, that’s good insight!!!

    I officially append that to my last response to Randy.

    Thanks again

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    Randy, a high rate of scoring doesn’t equate with cheating for many reasons.

    By getting rid of ads, your game speed increases by probably 25-50%.

    Most players who have a high rate of scoring do so because they’ve played the game a long time (the puzzles and words eventually repeat—so one becomes familiar with even uncommon words and many players remember words based on the puzzle levels)

    Many players also come into this game with an aptitude for words and word puzzles like scrabble and have a large vocabulary.

    Really fast players are also—well, really fast, both with their mind and fingers.

    Factor in the use of hints periodically, and you can achieve these scores.

    Randy, have you ever tried solving a rubics cube before? (That multicoloured cube where you try to get all the same colour on each face.). I can’t; it seems impossible—but the right person with a quick mind and fingers who has practiced it can do it in literally seconds. Try looking at playing Wordscapes the same way—pattern/word recognition coupled with practice, a quick mind and fast fingers equals a high scorer without cheating.

    If you’re new to this game, then these scores seem like cheating (when I first played, I was happy to break 1000 over a weekend). But the more you play this game, the easier it gets. But you also have to be good with words and remembering, too.

    Anyway Randy, this game is for fun; I enjoy playing and don’t cheat (I don’t even use hints anymore). I know I’m not a top scorer either. But just because someone is twice as fast as me doesn’t make them a cheat.

    One last thing, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t matter how good or bad others are—you’re playing hopefully for your own enjoyment and mental challenge; at least I am.
    .

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    Randy, what level are you on and do you play with ads?

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    Thanks mar.

    I tried typing something earlier but I got an error. So I’m going to repeat it.

    It seems the maximum words per hour is <1500 and the maximum puzzle score is <100.

    I agree about playing time—my best score was 14000, but it took the whole weekend playing like a zombie; so, I can see someone like yourself twice as fast as me getting your top score.

    Mar, my ultimate goal with this is to create some guidelines for new players and players who felt they were victims of cheating to help them understand whether cheating did or did not occur.

    Any other players out there who can score >1500 words per hour, let me know. Thanks

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    Mugsy bar, you are a player of few words/vegetables. I missed the memo on the potato—I’m unsure whether it’s meant to be interpreted as a 😊, or ☹️, or 🤪, or just a potato 🥔.

    Sincerely,
    🥦

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    Lark, level 50 to join a team; level 65 to play in team tournaments

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    Have fun! 😊

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    Joanne, you can be first in your tournament, but 6 other teammates have higher scores than yours in their individual tournaments.

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    Any other high scorers? I know you’re busy right now accumulating massive scores, but the more data the better!

    Thanks 😊

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    Thanks Mugsy bar!

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    (SwedishChef, just to clarify, is “1218” referring to the version update of the game?)

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    Thanks SwedishChef. That’s just the hard number data I’m looking for.

    Any others with higher scores?

    (To be clear, you don’t have to explain how or special memory/list techniques that you want to keep to yourself; I’m working with the assumption these are honourable scores—I’m just looking for the human limits of the game based on real time playing experience)

    Thanks

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    WANTED; Are you a top scorer who scores >20000 in the weekend tournament? I am looking for maximum scores:

    1). Maximum words per hour

    2). Maximum points per puzzle (includes bonus
    words)

    WHY: I am trying to put together possible scores in this game without cheating to help people understand what is and isn’t cheating. I need some guidance since (shamefully 😞) I am not a high scorer myself.

    I think the maximum score for a puzzle is probably in the 50-60 words and most likely < 100, but this is only my opinion.

    I think the maximum words per hour is in the 1500 or so range and most likely < 2000, but I don’t have first hand data to back this up.

    New players especially don’t understand what’s possible in this game and I want to clarify things. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

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    (Yeah, I really loved it that much! Or it was a silly computer glitch!)

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    “Gone to chase comets ☄️ “—I love it, Dragon. Enjoy and best wishes! 👍

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    Red mountain pass, I don’t know what the game developers do with dormant players that do longer play. I would assume nothing. If that dormant player had joined a team, presumably most team leaders would boot the player from the team after an extended (? Weeks, ? Months) period of inactivity. Obviously, if I’m the one who dies—I’m not worrying about it!

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    Red mountain pass, glad to hear you have found a better forum for discussing your health and personal issues. This is, after all, a gaming site, and my efforts earlier were solely to help you find a team. People of all races, religions, genders, and ages potentially play this game, so, as a general rule, I don’t infer anything about other players other than they enjoy playing this game. So, I hope you continue enjoying the game and stay safe.

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    (Sorry—Jimbo, not Jumbo)

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    Jumbo, good observation about the crown—they are obviously taking a little break from the tournaments to let their fingers regenerate after being worn down to the bone from years/decades of non stop playing.

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    (It would take roughly 14 years playing 24 hours a day at a pace of 1400-1500 words per hour to achieve that brillance score)

    I don’t like calling people cheats, but this person (? Android, ? Robot,) is cheating at the game.

    The player name “lol” is the icing on the cake.

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    It is not possible without computer manipulation (see earlier discussion under “Wordscapes cheating”).

    PS. Even factoring in the use of all toes and available appendages—not possible

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    I created a email account just for this game to avoid these name / privacy issues

    PS. My real name is Tippy Middle Toes

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    Kamuela, I see what you mean. So, perhaps it is indeed just part of his name that got flagged because that was somehow tied to filtered text.

    This is how they explained the chat filter to me:

    “Also, while a word or phrase is not considered inappropriate to you, that does not mean it's not offensive to another player who may have reported it previously, and therefore it had to be added to the filter. Please take these factors into consideration when you are noticing certain words and phrases being blocked.”

    Regardless, bad programming/illogical algorithm is at the heart of it.

    Have a good tournament, Kamuela.

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    Kamuela, the only thing that explains that to me is their name got tied up in repeated chats that got reported. This would have occurred before they recently started flagging individual words. Otherwise,I’m still scratching my head over it 🤔

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    Hi Ian, the game allows for in game purchases of hints etc... via the shopping cart 🛒; stay away from the shopping cart and you shouldn’t be charged.

    The “coins” are part of the game and not real money. (Of course, the game developers put the “coins” right beside the 🛒 which can lead to confusion)

    There is a one time fee for getting rid of ads, but once the ads are gone, you shouldn’t be charged

    (Personally, I disable in game purchases for apps in my phone just to avoid unexpected and inadvertent surprises)

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    Kirsten, the mid week tournament and sometimes other surprises occur randomly for different players. It is the game developers experimenting with us as guinea pigs in their master plan to overthrow the universe.

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    🤣

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    Dragon and Kameula, your exchange just now gave me a flashback to “The Crying Game” 😳

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    😀

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    I don’t think they are turning the game into anything it isn’t already—they’re just tweaking it. Of course, if you’ve had an update with expanded words, no one likes to have that taken away. But as Anonymous points out, they will update again—this is not a static game. And they also seem to be responsive to people’s concerns. Although they may not act quickly enough for our liking, they do make an effort to improve the game.

    Personally, I just love the overall look, feel, and sound of the game. Being able to interact with others on a team is also great (remember, team play is only a few months old).

    And yea, it is just a game—but a fun game, for me at least!

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    Simon, the response they gave me has a little more info:

    “Thank for the message. Over the last few months we have been testing multiple bonus word lists. We have recently begun switched all players to the same list. You may see some words that were previously accepted, no longer accepted, as well as words that haven't been previously accepted now accepted. All players will be using the same list when playing.

    The list was changed for game balancing reasons. Not all words are accepted as bonus words. However, we may add more words in the future. Thanks for playing. We appreciate it.”

    Sounds like they’re done using us as guinea pigs.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Simon, thanks for the update feedback!

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    Weeksy, hopefully now innocent words including people’s game nicknames won’t become innocent bystanders when chat gets reported.

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    SwedishChef, why do they mess with the dictionaries like that? Makes no sense—2 steps forward, then 1 step backwards—so to speak,

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    (Ps. I think they have it fixed now— I did get 4 helps in 5 hours, though last night)

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    SwedishChef, it’s just my and yours little secret—don’t tell anyone, especially in this chat 😉

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    Gail, as PRstr says, you can change the nickname anytime (click on the ✏️icon). But I was also wondering whether the name showing up here is different from your nickname in the game. I understand that people playing thru Facebook can use a different icon photo, so I also wonder whether the name shown here depends on the medium thru which they login to play the game (I’m not using Facebook, so I’m just speculating 🤔).

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Amanda, great idea for a team (seriously)—hopefully somebody else follows up on it because there is a need for teams like that.

    PS. Sounds like your teammates want you back; good luck and don’t put so much pressure on yourself—it’s just a game

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    Katz, thanks

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    Katz, that’s what I’m asking—what do you mean by open? I don’t see any reference to open in the team info. Does that mean the team is not filled and there are open spots? If there are open spots, does that mean anyone from another team can chat with your team?

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    Katz, sorry, I meant to say “anyone” for joining (see, I’m just being dense again) 🙄

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    Katz, our team is “open” for joining, but I don’t see the connection with being able to chat with someone from another team (connect the dots for me please...I feeling a little dense right now) 🤔

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    Mugsy Bar, how do you know whether your team is “open” vs, presumably “closed”?

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    Go getter, did a person change their name and you just don’t recognize their new name (the changed name should still show up on you team member list, though)?

    Did someone recently join your team?

    Otherwise, not sure how that happens....anyone else seen this?

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Hey, for those without the front row seats to the slugfest—what were the team scores, rankings, and high players scores? 🤔

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Jodi, there has been a problem with the chat being too restrictive. Part of the issue maybe if your name was used in a chat numerous times and those chats were reported, your name may have been flagged as part of the banned chat.
    (This may not have even been your chats; other people on other teams using “Jodi” in their banned chats could have caused this, too.)

    Two things you can do:

    1) direct an email via the “send us a message” on the main page telling them your specific problem; they usually respond. Maybe they can “free” your name

    2) as a quick fix, alter the spelling of the name by adding a “-“ like “-Jodi” to bypass the chat filter for the time being

    Good luck

    (Option 3] is to legally change your name so you can chat—ummmm, maybe not)

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    (PS Torvil, if you feel you don’t have enough players to form your own team, but you want to leave AND keep your teammates together, consider merging with another like minded team. Again, check the “TEAMS looking for players” forum topic)

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    Torvil, I don’t think there is much you can do if the captain never chats—they would be oblivious to your displeasure and probably don’t care. Until the captain (team leader) leaves, they control the team.

    If you have a lot of people on the team who feel similarly as you and who communicate thru the team chat, then consider making your own team. Now, you could organize that thru the team chat—but the chat disappears after a while and can be hard to fully discuss things.

    A better option for discussing your mutinous plans is creating a forum topic in the previous section to discuss this amongst your teammates (creating a topic just for your team is suggested rather than in this general chat because chat gets buried quickly here making it harder to follow a discussion). By doing this thru the forum, when people do leave the team you still have a place to coordinate things.

    If instead you just jump ship, there are always competitive teams looking for players (see the “TEAMS looking for players” forum topic).

    Best of luck.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Angel, thanks for the feedback—I am now one step closer to being a genius. Now I can stop working on my new alias—“eggy” (short for egg on my face)

    Good luck the rest of the tournament!

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    Angel, in the FAQ section under tournaments, it just says how to change the team name. It does not mention any consequences for doing this. I am not a genius, but It does not make any sense that your team would lose points for changing your name.

    (If you change your team name and lose your team points, don’t bother looking for tippytoes—I will have changed my name, too!)

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    SwedishChef, very interesting indeed—Arizona is on mountain standard time year round, one of few states not on daylight saving time (according to my basic googling)—maybe that accounts for it. (I was otherwise going to put forth an alien abduction theory, but, ... the daylight savings time anomaly may account for it—maybe they live close to a state that does have daylight savings time and their internet connection is routed through there????? 🤔)

    PS. SwedishChef, the suspect has been very cooperative—make sure you reward them with some “helps”.

    Have a great tournament people!

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    Kameula, maybe it’s my simplistic mind, but since people already play starting at different times based on their time zone, wouldn’t that imply the tournament start time is independent of people’s device times. Regardless, questions remain.

    SwedishChef, more interrogation of the suspect might be required—had they indeed been altering their computer clock? Was their device time set 1 hour ahead? Had they been playing offline or airplane mode before joining in the tournament? Had they have this happen before? Glad to hear you have the suspect in custody on your team—let’s see what happens this weekend—watch them carefully, SwedishChef 👀

    Have a good tournament everyone.

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    Emma, thank you for your kind words. I don’t do other online stuff, so, I’ll pass on the reddit, thanks. Like many others here, I just like the game and if I can help others along the way, then great. Isn’t part of the fun of this forum section the randomness of it all—you never know what you find in some of the topics; keeps you on your toes—your tippytoes! 😉

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    Emma, the brilliance score can tell you some things. A score less than 50000 is a pretty new player, a score 100000-150000 means a relatively new player still probably below the Masters levels, scores well into the 100000’s is probably an experienced player, and a score in the millions is probably an experienced player who plays a lot.

    How does that translate into tournament play? Well, it doesn’t necessarily. Scores less than 50000 are the biggest uncertainty—really good, fast, and eager players all have to start somewhere, so they could have a low brilliance but still be really good especially with more time. A really high brilliance score could also be a player who is now “burnt out” and doesn’t play much now, or, someone really addicted to the game and really put up numbers. But as has already been said, generally, a high brilliance score tells you the player plays a lot.

    Because brilliance scores have limitations, if you’re interested in tournament performance, then you need to focus on tournament scores—average tournament scores, high scores, and frequency of play.

    You also can infer this information from the crown status—which is probably the best indicator of tournament performance. Having the highest crown level tells you the player has been playing the tournaments consistently AND being successful.

    (Note, I don’t think the game developers have solved the crown problem of spring crowns being shown in the summer format—so, if the player has a current summer crown higher than 2 yellow flowers, that is a spring crown and the player has yet to earn crown points for the summer tournament. )

    Good luck with your team, Emma 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Thelma, the bees on this game are wild and useless; apart from giving you a few coins associated with random letter placements, they otherwise produce no honey and are likely to sting you. My advice—avoid the bees 🐝

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Janice, if your team is looking for more players, consider advertising in the “TEAMS looking for players” forum topic as well.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Silverstar, I’m in a bit of a cat fight with my match—if only I really could use my toes. Have a great day. 😊

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    Silverstar, I should never have revealed the toe technique—that was to be Frostwood’s and my way to success in this game. Now, the cat is out of the bag, and the elite of this game will have no limits. I must say, involving your spouse was very unexpected—is there even room for 30+ digits fluttering away on your screen at once. Not to be outdone, I involved my dog—but the results are mixed—a lot of “woofs” and “ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssss” —most of the words even the new dictionary doesn’t accept. I must go now; the pulled groin muscle is acting up and the dog nipped at my fingers one too many times.

    You have won the toe contest—time to put my shoes on.

    You haves great day, too, SIlverstar.

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    Silverstar, of course you’d love to play us, the fox said to the hen, because your team would demolish us.

    Follow up to the toes—hey, what a great idea. Ok, I am visualizing this now and.....oh my....well, sorry, I’m not feeling well now; must go....

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    Silverstar, aaah yes, just now. You guys have a great/(insert any other superlative here) team, but I like the group I’m with—you know how it is, when you get to know the people you play with, it becomes a little “gaming” family after a while.

    PS after playing against Plantagenet last week and getting thrashed, I hope we never, ever, ever, (ever) to the nth degree play you guys/gals

    PPS. I’ve given up on the toe technique—pulled a groin muscle and fell off my chair while trying to solve a bonus word with my right 4th toe (should have known better—I’m left handed!)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous (words worth), FYI I created a new topic “TEAMS looking for players” where you can also advertise your team. (After a day or two, your post here will get “buried” and harder to find)

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    Rocky, you’re very popular and now I know why after Sapphire’s earlier post. Glad to share the “rock” with you. This is no recruitment ploy to join a team, just a friendly hello from someone who enjoys the game. I am no where near your level (11k max) especially since I struggled with the word “cod” the other day—ohh, the shame—best wishes in finding a new team 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Teams looking for players and players looking for teams:

    I’ve just created a forum topic for both so teams and people can advertise themselves in one place (besides this general chat). People can do some comparison shopping so to speak and to minimize teams and people advertising themselves in other unrelated topic forums.

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    (if a crown has more than 2 flowers at this stage, it is an old crown from the spring)

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    Anonymous, the crowns are all mixed up— if someone hasn’t played in the summer tournament yet, their crown is from the spring tournament—but, confusingly, in the summer style. The game developers are aware of the problem and hopefully will fix it.

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    Mar, I like your idea, but, it would be a very laborious process prone to error to be done by us. Having done some in house stats for my own team, it is very tedious.

    If you’re really keen, consider starting your own topic “weekend tournament leaders” in this forum and have people take screenshots of the final team standings and submit to a Facebook page [to be created by whoever tracks the scores]). Then post their team’s star count ranked amongst submitting. Of course, someone then has to transfer that data to a spreadsheet or data base to keep track of it if you really want standings etc..,that takes a lot of time given the potential number of teams. Tracking a few teams, say the really top teams, probably not a problem.

    Obviously, this is best done by the game developers who have all the data.
    Maybe the game developers will act on it; afterall, these team tournaments are still relatively new.

    My head hurts now thinking about all this!!!

    Good luck

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Mar, interesting idea. Logistically, it would have to be from the Wordscapes people given the innumerable teams playing if there is to be any reliability to the results. You can always send the game developers an email with your request and see what happens.

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    Frostwood, yes indeed, your Plantagenet team is very good—you were in our group this tournament and you guys and gals did great kicking all of our butts. Good luck with your future tournaments (you don’t need any luck, though).

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Sorry Doofus, I forgot to sign off on my last message

    Sincerely,

    Tippyt😊es

    (This message has been officially vetted by the word police)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Doofus, the odd well placed “-“ seems to work many times at circumventing the word police. For your name, see if something creative like
    “D😊😊fus” (I really mean no offence). I also now copy my chat text into memory before sending; if it gets rejected, I repaste it and fiddle until it works.

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    Doofus, welcome to the world of artificial intelligence where common sense is not very common. The game chat tests one’s ingenuity in bypassing the game police “rules”. Very frustrating indeed.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Rocky, thank you. I just like playing this game and the friendly chatty banter of like minded individuals that goes with it. I really don’t like this negative vibe stuff; sincere best wishes to you, Rocky 😊

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    Anonymous, good news—your psychometric testing did have a match with “Troll-are-us” located underneath the nearest bridge. They only require excessive emotional baggage and extra large chips on your shoulders, both of which you have in abundance! Best wishes filling that empty void in your life under the bridge.

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    Anonymous, current psychometric testing suggests you’re the wrong candidate for this chat site. Thank you for your interest and best wishes with your future endeavours 👍

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    Silverstar, you’re absolutely right—the game developers are working on the bug 🐜 with the tournament crowns; hopefully it will be fixed by the next update, so all should be good as you said. My hair got a little messed up worrying about this crown thing—better now, thanks. 😉

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Silverstar, on our team list, ALL the crowns for both spring and summer are in the summer style; thus, one cannot tell whether ether crown was earned in the spring or during the current tournament.

    Very confusing. So I now have a small leafy crown but someone on our team who didn’t play on the weekend has a large flowery crown (based on their spring performance).

    I like the idea of showing others what people have already earned, but the execution of it so far is problematic.

    I thought about them doing a “micro” version of their tournament crown view (the one with all four seasons in one view) and place that between the image of the persons current tournament crown and the help/brilliance data, but it might look too tiny.

    (You may not notice this if your on a team where everyone earned a beginning crown this weekend)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Open request:

    Hello everyone. The game developers are obviously trying to deal with the complaints of people losing their hard fought crowns after the tournament ends. Their solution of intermixing spring crowns and new summer crowns all in the same summer style I’d very confusing to say the least.

    Having more than one crown displayed may also get confusing.

    I know there are many seasoned Wordscapes veterans in this chat, so I’m sure some of you very creative, thoughtful, and intelligent people might have better ideas about the crowns.

    Could you share them in this chat—after a couple of days, I can send the game developers a note with your (hopefully many) ideas and possible solutions on everyone’s behalf.

    Let’s help make the game better together! 😊

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    Yes Silverstar, it wildly exceeds my expectations—my minimum standard for a vision only needs track pants (well worn), a bag of cheetos, and a baseball cap (with combed hair) while sitting on an empty crate in a basement with sirens blaring in the background.

    PS I like your vision better

    PPS Your proficiency with your appendages scares me; I’m still struggling with the thumb thing. Cheers!

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    Hi silverstar, in your vision, just make sure i’m wearing clothes and my hair is combed. Thanks.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Sister4sc, thanks for showing their response. So, I guess after this weekend’s tournament, we will see a silver crown beside our name, but everyone else’s will be their previous spring crown. Clear as mud. The game developers like to throw a lot of curve balls at us just to see if we’re paying attention. Have fun sistet4sc and good luck the rest of the tournament 😊

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    Frostwood, don’t worry; most of us are mere mortals like yourself—I am still trying to figure out how these opposable thumbs work. I won’t be challenging these 20k people until I figure out a way to use all my toes, too!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Hello sister, I think the crowns represent your spring tournament equivalent using the summer ones. You don’t see your own crown because it is highlighting your name in the team list. I wonder if when people start earning the summer crowns, they will list it beside the spring equivalent—let’s wait and see. Have a fun tournament everyone!

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    We also have a spot on our team (similar to word whimsy below) after booting the troll. We are team unity—green/yellow emblem with tree: team brilliance 8 mill; range of players from novice to a few very good (ie 10000+); our tournament scores in the 90-100k range. We encourage team spirit and collegial play, if anyone is interested.
    (More importantly, avoid “epicgaming” player at all costs)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    WARNING: We had a “troll”/generally bad person join our team today—alias: epicgaming—very rude and tried to encourage cheating. Needless to say, we booted him from our team.
    Don’t let him/her on your team. Have a great day everyone.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Steph
    I saw your earlier post looking for a competitive team. Our team won our last two tournaments in the 50000 to 70000 range. We have a couple players regularly scoring 10000 points as well as a lot of new players. We have a positive team attitude and just opened up 3 spots on the team. Our team is “unity” (with the yellow and green coat of arms with a tree) (team brilliance 7,000,000+).
    Best wishes to everyone and have fun!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Exinanition,

    Thanks for sharing that insight into your play.

    You are definitely not an average player, so your explanation certainly helps the rest of us appreciate what it takes to excel at this game.

    As an analogy, I look at players like you who can score 25k+ points like someone who solves a Rubic’s cube in less than a minute—an elite highly trained player on a totally different level and skill set than most people.

    (In contrast, my Rubic’s cube sits in a drawer, collecting dust, never to have been solved!)

    Keep enjoying the game!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Randy,

    Didn’t we get into a little tussle a few months back in the general chat over cheating?

    The only reason I remember is because I got scolded and sent to a time out by Kat over it! (My fatal error was not inviting you over here to the cheating thread to have it out with you.)

    I’m glad to see you’re on a team and doing well,

    In general, I think it really does help to be on a team. One quickly realizes that there are indeed really good players out there getting high scores legitimately because some of them actually play on one’s team. It really does help to put some of these scores into perspective.

    Cheers and keep enjoying the game.

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    Pillbox,

    I totally understand the frustration of this game. We all want to win. To be out in front and then overcome by someone else whose pace we can’t compete with is very frustrating.

    When I first started, people were whizzing by me at twice my speed. Then I discovered how much those ads really slow you down. The thing about this game is that if you are good with words and recognizing them, you WILL eventually be winning tournaments. It just doesn’t happen right away because those other players who’ve played longer and have seen all the puzzles have a huge advantage. They are reflexively solving these puzzles partly by memory while, if you haven’t seen them all, you waste precious time having to actually THINK the puzzle out. That makes a big difference.

    If you then add a little bit of strategy like when you start a tournament, how close you get to someone you’re trailing, and how far in front of someone you get when leading, the victories will come.

    But that’s what makes the victories satisfying, isn’t it—you have to work for them and it’s not always easy. So when you win like Dea did, it’s absolutely wonderful. (Dea, Randy is right; keep playing because you never know who you’ll match against each week. Just when you’re on top of the world for winning that week, the next week you might get squashed by someone who played against Laurie!)

    This can be a very humbling game; but I’m addicted to it, so I’ll take my lumps along with crowns as they come!

    Keep having fun and regardless of whether or not you felt you got robbed one week, there’ll always be next week!

    Good luck Pillbox, Randy, Dea, Laura, Laurie, and everyone else who loves this game with the new crown season. 😊

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    Laura,

    At first when you said 700 points in minutes to pass you, I thought it was very suspicious. However, by minutes you actually meant 30 minutes, which, although exceptionally fast, is not as suspicious. That is a 1400 word per hour pace. For context, top players can readily score at a 1000+ word per hour pace. If the player hasn’t been been playing and then starts, they would also be relatively fresh and more likely to play at their maximum pace. Such a pace is very plausible if the player is also augmenting their gameplay with the odd hint to maintain that pace.

    So you are potentially being outplayed by a top player (did the player have a top crown? [i would expect yes; if not, see below] Is the player ranked in the top 200 world? [if yes, there’s your answer; if no, the person still could be a fast player]).

    Laura, had the player been playing at an even faster pace like 2000 words per hour then I would have said there was definite computer manipulation going on. But this pace is still within the range of a top player augmenting their play with hints. Could someone use computer manipulation and do this, too—yes, but if the player had a top crown and was ranked highly with a high brilliance score(you’d only know that if you see them listed in the world ranking) then they are most likely a fast player.

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    Pillbox,

    You sure read a lot in between the lines of Laurie’s initial complaint. They clearly see a score of 12 k as cheating.

    By thinking that 12 k is a cheating score, Laurie may be relatively new to the game and doesn’t understand what’s possible. My response to Laurie was just trying to point out what is legitimately possible in this game and how it’s done because that is what they asked.

    (Ironically, Exaninition was very encouraging of them. I only commented in order to put some substance behind his numbers.)

    Everything else you attribute to Laurie is your projection—maybe you’re right, maybe you’re wrong—who knows. But that’s not what Laurie complained about. They didn’t say “it’s not right that top scorers run up the score near the end of crown season”. If they had said that, then they would have understood that 12 k is a legitimate score. But they clearly called it a cheat. So let’s just deal with their complaint.

    Just to be clear, yes, I downplay the extent of unequivocal cheating because in my personal experience it is rare. I agree that the perception of widespread cheating is more of a problem
    —that is why I am trying to explain what is possible thru legitimate play in this forum—too much of the legitimate high scoring play by top notch players is being demonized as cheating. These player’s reputations are being trashed because people are ignorant of what’s possible in this game.

    So my empathy for Laurie ends when they automatically call someone else a cheat. And what about that player who scored the 12 k? Interestingly, the player who won my tournament that week had a score of 13 k. They were playing all weekend just as hard as anyone else. I’d say they put in 25 hours. So, don’t they deserve a reward for their time and effort, too, rather than be labelled a cheat?

    For me, what is more important here is that Laurie understands that these high scores are legitimate and possible. Maybe in some months time with practice Laurie will be racking up high scores, too.

    The following is for Laurie if you’re still following any of this:

    What Pillbox says is absolutely true—if you enter the tournament later, you lessen the chances of competing against really high scorers. A top scorer going for a personal best score (or a top scorer on a top team that’s competing against another top team) will try to maximize their playing time in the tournament in order to squeeze every point they can out of those 53 hours. So even starting a few hours later may help. It doesn’t always work, but it’s your best strategy.

    Also, a simple way to boost your tournament scoring is to just pay the nominal fee to get rid of the ads. It makes it easier to advance up the leaderboard quicker and you don’t mind playing the game longer. The game is 100% more enjoyable without ads!

    Pillbox, don’t take anything I said personally. I hope you have continued success (must be nice winning with 2500!!!—I definitely start too early! 🙄)

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    PS If one really looks at how you play the game, just imagine what your score would be like if you got rid of every little hesitation in solving a word, every pause, every failed attempt at getting a word right, every needless delay between games, every check of the leaderboard to assess scores, every..,well, you get the idea.

    We can “waste” a lot of time playing this game by not actually playing it.

    If you eliminate a lot of that “dead time” when you’re not actually solving a word, your score will improve.

    Top players minimize that “dead time.

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    Pillbox,

    Tell us about your documented “widespread cheating” and how you arrived at that conclusion.

    In my post to Laurie, I explained how you can get a high score in this game. A 26k score is very possible by playing long hours at a high rate.

    Of course, an average player who looks at that score will think it’s cheating because they are new to the game.

    This game gets easier the longer you play. The puzzles repeat. You recognize words quickly. It’s all pattern/word recognition.

    If you play at an average rate and for only a few hours, OF COURSE you’re not going to have a score anywhere close to these scores. When you’re away from the game, these players are still playing racking up points.

    So it’s pretty rich for someone who plays 4-5 hours out of a 53 hour tournament at an average rate to then accuse someone else with a high score of cheating. Really?

    I could probably do 20k myself IF I played the entire weekend with very little sleep.

    My rate of play is half that of a top player—so do the math.

    Yeah, but there are cheat sites and computer manipulation...whatever, this is my experience playing the game without hints (my top words per hour, no hints, is 700). You can chose to believe what you want to believe. Sustained play at 1000 words per hour is very much possible.

    If someone is actually actively playing long hours at this game(ie the tournament leaderboard is actively updating), they’re playing the game! If they’re using a cheat site for hours on end, they’re playing the game as an idiot (why even “play” this game then?). If they’re using computer manipulation for hours on end, they’ve got bigger psychological problems than this simple game!

    No one can really say how anyone else is playing this game unless you’re actually there watching them. If you understand what is humanly possible at this game, that is the best you can do at assessing other people’s scores.

    My conclusion after studying this game is that these scores are plausible; therefore, one can’t just call them a cheat. (That’s not what I would call “downplaying widespread cheating”.) I make no claims as to the extent of cheating in this game because I have no clue (how could anyone truly test that anyway?).

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Laurie, your total tournament score comes down to:

    (Average number of words per hour) x (number of hours played)

    The tournament is 53 hours long. Let’s say, for the sake of the argument, the number of potential playing hours is under half of this (say 24 hours) when one takes into account sleeping etc... for an average player.

    So how is 12k possible then?

    Well, a player who dedicates those 24 hours to playing the game over 2 days and who averages 500 words per hour (a very realistic playing rate for an experienced player) will score 12 k! ([500 words per hour] x [24 hours] = 12000 words)

    Similarly, a top player who can average 1000 words per hour could do 12k in half that time in just 12 hours (I would suggest that Exinanition is likely in this category of player).

    But if you’re a player who scores in the 100-200 words per hour range, then, no, you can’t score 12 k in a weekend tournament.

    So, how does one get fast like that? Practice, word knowledge, word recognition, good memory, and quick fingers all play a role. But this is like asking how does a professional baseball player hits a baseball out of a ballpark coming at them at 90 miles per hour. Some of this is through practice, but some requires skill and innate ability or aptitude for the sport. The same can be said for this game. One can practice and improve, but, some players are also just better at this game than the rest of us.

    These are very plausible scores that can be achieved.

    PS I’m not a top player, but my high score was 14 k—I basically just played the game all weekend—I put in the time to make up for my lack of speed.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Sandra, once is bad enough, but 3 times! That stinks.

    A little more detail is needed to say exactly what happened each time. How far ahead were you each time? Since really good players can score close to 1000 words per hour, in a 10 minute period, that’s 166 words. So, if someone was within 150-200 words of your score, you may have just gotten beaten. If you were up by 500 or more, then, that is unequivocally a point dump and cheating. In that case, I would also vent your frustration thru the support page (“contact us”) and send a message directly to them (not thru this forum because they won’t read it here).

    Having that happen to you three times in a row seems like a statistical anomaly. As a rule, try to give yourself at least a 500 word lead over your opponent with 30 minutes left to ensure you just don’t get caught by a fast player using hints. If you’re certain this was a big point dump each time, then I would consider changing my routine start time for the tournament. For whatever reason, you’re getting lumped with some people who like to cheat—by changing your tournament start time you might lessen that chance.

    There are only a relatively few instances that one can clearly say there is cheating—a point dump at the end of a tournament is one of them. So, if that happened to me, I would report the player to PeolpleFun (again, thru support and “contact us”). It may not help you get back a win, but someone who cheats like this is likely to do it again.

    Being able to document your case is helpful. Consider (if you’re still play) taking screenshots of your tournament starting near the end of the tournament. Knowing that a really good player could score1000 words in one hour, I would take screenshots at least every hour for the last couple of hours of a tournament to follow the rate of play and to also track someone changing their player name which might also throw you off. If you have photo evidence of what you described, that will go a long way—support can upload those photos to further assess any complaint.

    Ironically, someone started a new post in the forums here complaining they were in first but then they got kicked out of the tournament (presumably because they got to first by cheating!) So, the game developers will act, but I think we have to help identify for them these players who are clearly cheating—that is, players who point dump near the end of a tournament (500 words or more) and players scoring at incredibly high rates of play (I.e. over 2000 Words per hour).

    With respect to spending money, in general, if you like words and word puzzles, you can still enjoy this game without spending money on it. (The only money I would spend is to get rid of the ads, a nominal fee.) If you need hints, join a team that likes to give helps (you can easily get 21 free hints a week thru a team), get the daily prize (at least once a week you should get at least either a hint, bullseye, rocket, or bees), and play the daily puzzle for coins.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, it is a little unclear what the issue is here— you refer to a team result and then your individual tournament results.

    Remember for team tournaments, the team score is the total score of everyone playing (in their own separate individual tournament). So the team score depends on the number of players actively playing and each player’s rate of play.

    So even If a team of 50 players has only half actively playing, but those players are really good (i.e. average 700 words per hour), then that team can easily score more than 13000 in one hour.

    Similarly, for an individual tournament, if someone plays twice as fast or even three times as fast as someone else, their score will seemingly take off every time you check. Remember, some players when starting a tournament like to get out in front early. If they are a relatively fast player and using hints, their score will look like it’s accelerating compared to a beginner or average player’s score. (For instance, if one player takes a few minutes to solve a puzzle level, a really fast player may have already solved 2 or 3 puzzle levels in that same time. So if you check the scores after the game is done, the really fast player‘s score will be much further ahead. While in the middle of a puzzle level, you can periodically check the leaderboard standings by tapping the ⭐️ icon at the top middle. If you do this every 45 seconds to a minute while still on the same puzzle level, you should see that first place player’s score increasing at a smaller amount as they finish a puzzle level while you’re still working on yours.)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. One innocent explanation that I did overlook was they played all weekend offline (say they were camping), and then when they came back to civilization and an internet connection, the score updates.

    Unfortunately, the end result is unfair to others either way.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, it sounds like your opponent was playing offline and then came online dumping their points.

    Now, one can’t say for certain how that person was earning their points while offline. Some people are able to play offline to save on expensive internet charges. They still legitimately solve the puzzles and earn the points. Ideally, they should then update regularly so that others such as yourself can follow their progress. If that person was updating every hundred points or so, then I would give them the benefit of the doubt.

    In this case, the person deserves no benefit of the doubt because they’ve purposely dumped points to win the tournament. 12 k is a lot of points. If they had earned those legitimately and updated more frequently, then they would have clearly beaten you fair and square. But by not updating, they lose all respect in my books.

    Sorry to hear this happened to you. Fortunately, it doesn’t happen too often; so, try not to get too discouraged. Congrats on your 5 k.

    I would consider sending a note to PeopleFun about the player in question because this is not fair play at all. Go through the support page and use the “contact us” at the top.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    I don’t know about playing on a PC.

    (I don’t think it would be as fun a game if one was being a stenographer!)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, see “start a team”, August 27 comment

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Tamika, sorry to hear that’s happened to you. People who cheat to “win” that way aren’t “winning” anything, though—they only lose their self worth and integrity. Their virtual crown becomes pretty heavy after awhile—it’s hard to keep one’s head up when all that inner shame is pulling it down.

    (And if they don’t feel anything, well then, you’re just dealing with a sociopath. Let them keep the crown; maybe it’s all they got in life.)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. Some teams are competitive and some teams are not.

    In general, it is a good idea to make sure you have the “team chat” setting turned to on (Tap the cog icon, top left of home page).

    Some teams like to coordinate tournament start times and strategy.

    For a few tips for staying on a team—see “10 ways not to get BOOTED form a team”

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    “Star” tournament is just official Wordscapes’ jargon for the weekend tournament (...because you earn a ⭐️ for each word). So, as a single player, this is just the tournaments you’ve already been playing in.

    When you join a team, nothing really changes with respect to the weekend tournament. Just play like you normally would in a weekend tournament. An extra “team tournament “ pops up on your home page where you can see your team’s progress against other teams and follow your teammates scoring as well.

    Like I said before, you don’t really play or do anything differently when you’re on a team since the points you earn in the weekend tournament count both towards your individual tournament and for your team.

    Note: for your individual tournament, you’re matched with 99 other random players. For the team tournament, the TEAM is matched with 49 other teams. Each player on your team is playing in their own individual tournament and that score is what you see for their contribution to the team’s score.

    Clear as mud, right?

    It’s all pretty straight forward once you join and play.

    The big benefit of a team is you can get free hints (💡)—just press the “request help” button—and you meet really cool people (like Katz) from all over the world through the chat!

    Join a team and join the fun!

    Good luck, Exinanition 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Tournaments are currently just on the weekends.

    When you join a team, the points you earn in the star tournament also count as your team points.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    TheRose,
    There are some teams which are very competitive. This particular team has a Brilliance of 30 million and 8 players with the top crown so far. In general, many good players are able to score >10 k in tournaments and really good players can score > 20 k.

    Unlike “average” teams where maybe not everyone plays each week, many competitive teams require minimum scoring in tournaments and everyone playing.

    Assuming this team scores in the 350k range, that averages to 7.6 k per player. So, assuming they have their fair share of really good players who can score over 10 k in a tournament, this is a very plausible average score.

    (For context, myself and others on my team can certainly score 7.6 k in a tournament, but my team usually scores < 100 k. Why? Well it’s just a numbers game— stack your team with more high scoring players than most teams and then also make sure everyone plays. For most teams, this doesn’t happen, but for competitive teams, that’s exactly what makes them competitive.)

    When playing against a team like that, for an average team, you might as well just forget about them. Fortunately for most of us, we don’t encounter a top team like that very often.

    PS. Another way of looking at these teams is like this. Most top three scores in the individual star tournaments are in the 4-6 k range or higher. So, just make a dream team of players who can all finish in the top three. If you then make sure that all these top players play, you then have a top team that can score over 300k points.

    PPS. I don’t want to freak you out, but the highest recorded team score by one of these Super competitive teams is over 800k! Some single players on these teams could score MORE than everyone on your entire team combined.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Ardvark13,
    Thanks for taking the time to clarify things. Your explanation was roughly 600 words—a half hour worth of points 😉—that you sacrificed from your tournament race. Either you’re well out in front now or you’re taking a break to hunt for some ants 🐜 to snack on!

    Good luck the rest of the way!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Sandy, let’s try and look at what’s going on here. First, scores of cheaters can overlap with good players. The only way to say with certainty that someone is playing beyond acceptable rules of fair play is unequivocally documenting an offline point dump and a rate of score that can only be attained with computer manipulation.

    So what is the possible Scoring rate of a top notch player? Well, 1000 words per hour is a good benchmark for an elite player who is playing all out over some hours.

    The initial score of 300 points in 20 minutes falls in that range.

    At 7 hours in, a player’s score is Almost 10k. That is a rate of 1400 words per hour. I agree that that rate of scoring is in the uppers limits of an elite player, but it is still a plausible score—exceptional, but still plausible.

    The top scorer most likely changed their name based on what you say. The 22k score is again a crazy high score, but you don’t actually give the time for this. I’m assuming it is the same player based on the rate of scoring. Presumably the score is still in the 1200-1400 words per hour range.

    If you are closely following the leaderboard and seeing their score increasing at this rate, then this is not a point dump. This is either an elite player (elite of elites) or someone cheating.

    I found a player on a team with such a name. Suffice to say they have over 2 million in brilliance. Either they are really good at this game or they cheated their way to that brilliance. The player is also on an elite team. When I see this, I default to the former—an elite player.

    My conclusion is you had the unfortunate luck of being grouped with an elite player who is probably trying for a personal best or high score—a lethal combination if you’re not that player!

    The solution is simple:

    DON’T START right when the tournament starts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Players going for a personal best try to maximize their tournament time and tend to start right on time. So the only defence for an average player is to try and avoid a match up with a top player; start a little later and hopefully you’ll have better luck with the competition.

    Good luck with the rest of your tournament.

    PS. For a basic explanation of jumps in scoring, see “Wordscapes tournament scoring”.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    LikableAlien,

    Just to clarify, you say “last night” which is Oct 6, a weekday. That is a non-tournament day, so what score are you referring to?

    Are you tracking brilliance scoring from the leaderboards or presumably brilliance level from another team via the team search?

    Most likely you are since 2000-2500 words per hour is not possible without computer manipulation. But 2000-2500 brilliance points per hour is roughly 650-800 words per hour which is perfectly legitimate.

    So now that I know you’re talking brilliance and following brilliance scoring from other teams, what you describe is more in keeping with someone playing offline for a while and then coming online. The brilliance score of a player updates on their device when they complete a puzzle. However, if that player was offline, you’re not going to see their brilliance score until they finally come online.

    So, if this player’s brilliance score hadn’t changed for a day or two and then suddenly jumped 18000 brilliance points, then it just meant that they were playing offline and their brilliance score got updated when they finally came back online. This is a perfectly legitimate brilliance score updating issue and not cheating.

    Just be wary following brilliance scores on the leaderboard etc... due to these internet connection issues.

    You may return to your mothership now!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, if feasible, such a block would certainly stop point dumping when someone comes online. This is also in the game developers best interest. (Offline play used to be allowed for everyone, but the game developers stopped it because of the point dumping issue. So, there is no reason for them not to do what you say, too. Selling hint bundles is in the game makers interest, but people with hint bundles aren’t going to score 1000 words in a minute. So this won’t affect what they sell.)

    The alternative solution you give of policing this ourselves won’t work—fast players with legitimate high scores will be publicly tar and feathered as currently happens here in this very forum.

    The onus is on the game developers.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    John, I agree with your premise about options available for cheating. I disagree with your last broad sweeping statement. What’s your definition of high scorers? There are thousands of weekend tournaments; so the people that have the high score in those tournaments are using outside electronic help? Really? Did you read RB’s account from August 31 in this forum?

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, if there was no activity by this player prior to this (which would be hard to verify because who really looks at all 99 other scores in detail on a regular basis), then it is very likely someone coming online with a point dump. (See discussion below in response to Fermin).

    If the player had been actively playing with their score changing on the leaderboard within 1 hour of this happening, then this could be even worse computer manipulation.

    Even if only a few people use offline dumping of points, it wrecks the game for everyone else. Period.

    Anyone in a tournament seeing a sudden jump of hundreds or thousands of points in less than a minute like this by a player should send an email to support on the main support page using “send us a message”. They need to fix this loophole.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. Why recategorize? Why shouldn’t anyone really good be able to win their tournament?

    Everything in the game is random based on the time of entry into the tournament. Currently, you have players starting from different puzzle levels all playing against one another already. If you happen to get in a tournament with a really good player—that’s bad luck, and focus your energies on second.

    Also remember, not everyone plays for the same length of time. I’ve “beaten” many players who definitely could outplay me based rate of scoring, but I only “beat” them because I played more tournament hours than they did in order to compensate for their speed.

    Don’t penalize someone who is both fast AND commits the time to playing—they deserve to win!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Fermin,

    Normally, offline words (star points) don’t count towards a tournament score when a player comes back online. However, apparently some devices do allow for this to occur and apparently it can be also accomplished through computer manipulation. This is obviously an unfair practice since most players can’t play this way. Having said that, the points earned through offline play are nevertheless earned. The RATE at which they’re earned will be no different from that player’s normal rate of play.

    (Historically—ie 8 months ago—offline play was allowed for all players. But it made the leaderboard somewhat meaningless and too many players were getting burned at the end of a tournament by a sudden dump of points. So, the game makers stopped allowing it. So, if anyone has the ability to still play that way—DON’T, otherwise you’re play will be looked upon as cheating by practically everyone else!)

    As for secret techniques, I don’t know if there really are any. I can only infer from my own experience with the game that really high game play can be achieved by: not playing with ads, familiarity with the puzzle words and letter combinations (they repeat—practice makes perfect, right), memorization, maximizing bonus words quickly, and minimizing time when you’re not actually solving a puzzle. All this requires focused and intense play. Oh yeah—some people also just have a better aptitude for words—recognizing them and solving them. Lastly, but not least, it helps to have a quick finger, too!

    Some people could play as a communal effort to achieve similar results.

    Anything else involving computer manipulation is possible and therefore is cheating in my opinion—but the rate of scoring tends to be much higher.

    Anecdotally, the highest rate of scoring I’ve heard about is in the 1600 word per hour range. Obviously, no one person can play at a maximum speed over 53 hours—that would give you a tournament score of 84k! But there have been reports of 40k scores which I think is plausible. These are elite players.

    My unofficial classification for this type of player is: “you’re the best—now go get some sleep”

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    SwedishChef, thanks you the update. You do a lot of experiments—hopefully no words were harmed during your latest testing.

    For me, the offline/point dump, computer manipulation/point dump (your latest finding), mindlessly using a cheat site for every word,and computer manipulation for getting unlimited hints etc... are the only things that tarnish this game and wreck it for other players. People can’t compete against that. The point dump at the end is totally malicious in my view because people can’t see it coming. Players are psychologically totally unprepared for it after investing an entire weekend to get to the number one spot. One goes from happy anticipation and satisfaction of knowing you outplayed your opponent to utter disbelief that is was literally taken from you by illegitimate means. No one likes to lose that way.

    Players—make that—wanna be players who do these intentional manipulations must be very insecure hollow people knowing that is the only way they can “win”. So, Matt or anyone else who has lost that way—you didn’t lose buddy; you won at this game of life that has honour, integrity, and sportsmanship. The other player is the real loser.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Matt, name changing doesn’t equate to point dumping—it’s like a magician’s trick; you’re following someone’s score under name A, then when it becomes name B, it seems like a totally new player. People change their names in tournaments for all sorts of reasons including sometimes for strategy, Changing the name is not going to put points on the board.

    If you were following the leaderboard closely during the last couple of hours and saw a sudden jump ahead by this person (and the second place person was also still there), then this is more like someone playing offline and dumping points. Unfortunately, some devices allow for offline play. This may or may not have been intentional (for an unintentional account, see Garth_5’s post on August 16). Regardless of intent, it screws everybody else up (you in this case). There also seem to be some issues with certain time zones and daylight savings time whereby some players get an extra hour head start on everyone else. At least in the time zone glitch, you’ve got 53 hours to overcome it—in the case of someone coming online at the end, there is not much you can do but complain.

    Fortunately, these events don’t happen too often, but if it happens just once to a person, then that is one time too many if you’re that person.

    I suggest you send your complaint to the game developers thru the “send us a message”.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Thanks Omnomnom. I’ll consider your offer when I perfect using all my toes, too, like SilverStar, to make me more competitive.

    Then people in this forum will be saying: “Look at Tippytoes, they must be cheating—their rate of scoring doubled out of nowhere!”

    PS. This may take a while...😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    RB, my best was 14 k putting in similar hours, so I commend your skill—please, keep starting on time—no offence, but I don’t want to meet you in any tournament 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    RB, thanks for the insight of playing on an elite team. It’s not rocket science, just perseverance, skill, and time commitment to get those scores as you pointed out.

    PS. If you want a shorter tournament, just start the tournament later. If your team expects a Friday to Sunday commitment, then that’s the price of being on a high scoring team.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Imp and Sven, so I guess no one ever scores 10000 points or more in a weekend tournament?

    So I guess no one would ever form a team of top notch players who could each score 10000 in a tournament?

    So I guess if you had a top notch team, none of them would want to play?

    You’re right, absolutely impossible that a team of 10000+ players point tournament scorers could exist, form a team, and all play at once in a weekend tournament to be on pace for (50 x 10,000) 500,000 or more.

    So let’s look at this Wham jam team:
    Team brillance: 52 million
    Including: 1 player 3+ million brilliance
    5 players 2+ million brilliance
    20 players 1+ million brilliance
    42 players with top summer crown

    🤔

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PPS Many top teams expect people to play in a weekend tournament, otherwise they don’t stay on the team. These things aren’t mutually exclusive—if you have a team of really good players who like playing, well, they are motivated TO play in the tournament and WILL play. Most teams only have a few such players—but the really good teams are full of them. Again, for me, just seeing 48 million brillance for the team and the maxed crowns tells me each player scores high (ie the maxed crown) and they play often (ie the high team brillance). Again, what other conclusion can one draw but that such a team is more than capable of a crazy high tournament score.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. My point is, these team scores are plausible. If they weren’t, I wouldn’t be writing this. And if it’s plausible, I not going to jump to the conclusion that they’re cheating without more information otherwise (ie the team is brand new, none of the players have a to top crown, and the team brillance is 1 million but they’re scoring 500 k in a weekend tournament—okay, that tournament score is discordant with the team stats which would make one suspicious.)

    That’s my opinion and I try to base it on what’s possible. One can come to a different conclusion—just back it up with something other than innuendo.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Fay

    I can put up 10k in a weekend tournament if I want to. I am not the fastest of players. If one puts the time in, one can do it. Put 50 of me on a team—there’s your answer. Some teams expect all their players to play. That’s how these teams do it—they are not average teams.

    If you see a team with 48 million brilliance and almost all have maxed out crowns, are you really then going to ask “how are they doing it?” Just take the top one or two scorers in a tournament and then make a team of 50 of them—THAT’S how it’s done.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, I’m not on this Wpi team nor do I know them. But looking at their team, they have a team brillance of over 48 million and the majority of their players have a maxed out crown.

    My conclusion is you’re getting your butts kicked by a really good team whose players each probably average 5-10 k per tournament. They are not your “average” team; so, let it go and fight for second 😊

    (See my post below and other post reference for more details)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, 100000 points in 6 hours is 16667 points per hour. If the team has 50 players all playing, that averages to 333 words per hour per player: No foul play there.

    For a fuller discussion of what’s potentially possible/plausible for a team, please search keyword “250” and see “I strongly suspect that some folks are gaming the system. Leaders at the team event at 250k every time. Same team.”

    NOTE: unfortunately, scores for your average idiot who cheats (or a team of average idiots who cheat) can be similar to scores of really (really) good players and teams. (My definition of cheating for this game is using a cheat site or using computer manipulation.)

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    PS. I think the reason they make the tournament so long is to “iron” out some of the variables in the game, like people playing on different puzzle levels. This forces people to play through multiple sets of puzzles. This should mean everyone will have a relatively similar overall puzzle difficulty for the duration of the tournament.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Emmy, a 53 hour tournament can really stretch out the scores especially when considers not everyone plays from the same time zone of for the same length of time. A person’s score in any one tournament also does not necessarily tell you how good they really are—some people score just enough to win.

    If the big point gaps bother you, consider playing a shorter tournament—starting on Sunday (last entry is 1 pm or so Central time).

    To be honest, cheating is the exception—I don’t think I’ve been in a tournament where I could honestly say someone was cheating (knock on wood, so to speak). That is just my experience.

    For a better understanding of what is possible scoring wise in this game, I give some examples: search “Wordscapes tournament scoring”.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    John Lucas, how am I defending the use of cheat sites. But every big jump in score is not due to someone using a cheat site. How exactly do you differentiate between a really fast player and someone copying words manually from a cheat site (apart from maturity), though? If both are being entered manually, it would be difficult. The words speeds could be similar. Just to be clear, 40 levels in 5 minutes would not be possible even using a cheat site if entered manually—you have to factor in the time for animations—so what you describe is something different than someone mindlessly copying words like a data entry clerk. 40 levels in 5 minutes is not even possible using just unlimited hints alone either. And to say a person wouldn’t make mistakes copying is probably not true. Regardless, how do you stop someone copying from a site (or even their own word list)? How do you take down those sites? I don’t think you can realistically.

    People fun say they have software to detect cheating. Large word dumps from playing offline are more readily detected and dealt with. That is more like the situation you describe. Computer manipulation of some sort could also be detected similarly by a big enough jump in score. Of course, this is the game maker’s responsibility to look into. It is also an ongoing issue that is not new, but I don’t see any changes from the game maker to fix it.

    Yeah, people using cheat sites or computer manipulation is not fair and people shouldn’t do it. But I think if there was an easy solution it would’ve been implemented by now. In my experience, this happens infrequently, that’s why I would just shake my head and move on. (So they laugh when they win—who cares; their attitude at cheating to get want they want is pathetic. I pity them because that cheating attitude eventually catches up to you in life.)

    The game developers are the ones to deal with this, but, realistically, they only will if it becomes a big enough problem for them.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, there are some really fast players out there, so if they passed you at a rate of 1000 words per hour, they could just be a really fast player. Beyond 1500-2000 words per hour (roughly), they could be using lots of hints/rockets. There is no limits on numbers of hints used in a tournament, so technically it’s not cheating. If that’s how a person “wins” (by using large numbers of hints), it’s a hollow victory at best in my books.

    There’s not much one can do if you’re playing against a really fast player or someone using lots of hints, so just play your own game. If someone is using other means to score that quickly, then I just roll my eyes wondering why.

    I know it may not feel great from your point of view, but, other than being passed by a really fast player, I would have pity for that person if that’s the only way they feel they can “win”.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Rach1972, there are so many uncontrolled variables (players with or without ads, different puzzle level, different experience level) that limiting hints could be a problem for some, especially new players. I’ve had a few words where I literally had to almost spell the entire word out using hints because I just couldn’t get it (...it happens sometimes,🙃). I think a better solution might be to penalize your word score for using a hint during tournaments. So if you use a ton of hints, your score is significantly reduced.

    Will that happen? Probably not—they make money selling hints.

    The only money I’ve spent on this game is for removing ads, which I highly recommend just to make your playing experience more enjoyable. Buying hints for winning virtual prizes makes no sense to me. I totally agree—play using your own skills; anything you win or place knowing you did it on your own is more satisfying that way!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous #2, I’m not a moderator, but I like to think I have a moderate point of view. I do share your your view of the game—play for fun; you might win some, you might lose some, but have fun trying.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, waiting for a different start time is not a cheat. People play in different time zones, and people have lives (believe it or not) outside of Wordscapes. Besides, a 53 hour tournament is like a marathon; sometimes people just want to go for 10k or 5k run instead. Nothing wrong with that, and the game allows for it.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Shay, PeopleFun day they have software to detect tournament cheating. I don’t know if they really do, or if they just say that to appease us. I wonder if they actually have caught people, do they give the next player in-line the crown points? I’ve never heard that happening, though. Anything involving computer manipulation to win these tournaments just makes no sense to me—like, why?

    (For those who are new to this game, I’ve posted under “Wordscapes tournament scoring” some basics about tournament scoring and sudden jumps in scoring for reference.)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. Getting answers from a website, Siri, your uncle Bill, or whatever just defeats the whole point of the game—solving word puzzles to sharpen your mind. It’s like saying I need to exercise to get in shape, then you get a personal trainer (or your uncle Bill) to exercise FOR you! 🙄

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Abby, good question—never tried it myself, I was just responding to AJ Livingstone. Presumably one would ask what word has whatever number of letters, then say what the choices are, and give the letters already in the word.

    Imagine if everyone playing Wordscapes did this all at once—we might crash the internet or at least give Siri a huge headache 🤕.

    I can then just imagine Siri misinterpreting the sound of the letters and giving meaningless answers—that would be more frustrating than just solving the word oneself!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    AJ Livingstone, think about it—you go to a site to copy hundreds of words for a game where you “win” virtual prizes—who’s the real winner there? Ok, you get better at becoming a data entry clerk—but don’t get paid!!! Really smart. It’s a game—how much fun does one really get doing that?

    So one can use Siri to solve the puzzles for you—ok, this is just more dumbing down of people in general.

    I can’t help bu feel sorry for people like this. Like anything in life, the more you put into it, the more you get out of it. Just play, have fun, and hope people who copy from cheat sites eventually develop a little more confidence in themselves and their own potential for their own benefit.

    (Hope your winter is going well under!)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Me, a high score is based on their rate of scoring and how long they play for. I can score 20000 doing just what you said (not happening, though); someone else (a good player) who plays twice as fast as me will do it in half the time. Top players can approach 1000 words per hour.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Infamous, my text was not precise, but I when was referring to offline play in my analogy, I was referring to dumping points at the end of a tournament (that’s what I meant—but I didn’t say so specifically, so I apologize if I led your astray). Obviously, if someone is playing offline in such a way that they’re updating regularly enough that others can track their progress, that is different someone playing offline and dumping all their points at the end. It’s the latter situation that shouldn’t be allowed.

    With respect to the dictionary,...ok, guilty as charged. Of course you’re right, if they have now standardized the dictionary for everyone, then that’s the dictionary you should use. It was a moment of weakness for me as I reminisced of words lost since the last update and I tried to justify their use. ( You would think that the dictionary is an easy enough fix for the game developers—only allow those with the correct dictionary version to play in the tournament, but, as you’ve also pointed out, this is a money thing for them so more players not less is want they want.)

    Anyway, everything else is small potatoes that don’t need to be fretted over. All the inequities of this game are not impediments to having fun, but the large point dump from offline play takes the fun out of a tournament for anyone. That is my take on it.

    PS. Tippyshoes is my older brother; I’ll tell him you said hello. 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Shinelle, I hate to tarnish your idea of Tippytoes, but, shamefully, I have to admit that I routinely get stumped by the word “tree” in many puzzles 🙄.

    Enough said.

    Keep having fun!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Infamous, I like and respect the way you think.

    I totally agree about what you said about fair play and this game—it’s not a fair game on so many levels, but it is what is and we still play because...well, it’s still fun and entertaining. We tolerate the fair play imbalances and accept most of them as just part of the game. Because of these imbalances and variables (ADs vs no ads; free hints vs paid hints vs no hints; players playing on different levels; etc...) I tend not to view any of these imbalances as cheating.

    The dictionary example is a difficult one for me, though. Because the game developers have standardized the dictionary, then, like the offline issue, we should all be using the same one. But I sympathize with those who may have kept an older version for the richness of the vocabulary. Because for them, the enjoyment of the game is finding all the additional bonus words which is intellectually more stimulating. Sure, one could argue, the additional coins from finding bonus words gives them potentially more free hints, and the player can score higher per puzzle. Both are true, but, I doubt a player interested in finding all those bonus words is using a lot of coins to buy hints. The extra points per round and time saved by having fewer animations is a legitimate advantage, but it is dwarfed by the advantage no ads gives a player or the dumping of a large unexpected point score at the end of a game by playing offline.

    So, these fair and unfair imbalances are all relative. Going back to race analogy, I would view no ads, the dictionary, and the hints like a racer who has the best running shoes (like those Nike ones), the best coaches, and the best training. Some of their competitors in the race may be barefoot, coached by their uncle, and can only train part time because they work 3 jobs. They both run the same race. Chances are the the better trained racer with the best equipment will win—is it fair, no; is it cheating, though? But tripping your opponent who was winning near the end of the race (my analogy for the offline play or computer hacking with unlimited hints), I would say to both unfair and cheating. (This analogy sounds a lot like the Olympics—some countries have the best of everything and compete others who don’t, yet we still accept the results.)

    Infamous, you get high marks in my book for changing the way you play because others think it’s cheating.

    You also put things in the proper perspective: keep having fun, forget any bad experiences, and don’t let it consume you. Can’t argue with that!!!!!!

    Thanks again for the discussion

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Infamous, thanks for the info. When I first played, offline play was allowed for everyone so I did play offline for the same reasons—to save on data. I also never looked at it as cheating because it was available to everyone. But its a little different now if only a minority of players can do it. At least if you let others see your rate of play at say <100 words or stars I wouldn’t look at it as cheating either (you said 100 levels; I not sure if you meant 100 stars or words because 100 levels would be the equivalent of at least 1000-2000 words which is what people are complaining about).

    I’m contrast, others who probably don’t have ads and also use that as a stealth technique for the very end of a tournament to catch others off guard—-sorry, but you got to call a spade a spade, it’s cheating when only a select few have that edge and purposely take advantage of it.

    I look at this as just a fun game, too. Part of the fun the tournament is that last 1-2 hours when you’re neck and neck with someone else. If you can’t see why someone who then jumps ahead out of nowhere with 500 points makes this game not as fun, then maybe no one ever knocked all the checker pieces off the board on your last move when you were about to win, or maybe no one ever tripped you 5 metres from the finish line of a race you were about to win only to have you finish second, etc... Yeah, it’s just a game playing for virtual prizes. But that adrenaline kick you feel in a close game near the end is real—the excitement you feel when you win on the last puzzle is real, and the disappointment you feel when you lose on the last puzzle is also real. Yeah, no one is solving the world’s problems playing this game—but all games have an element of fair play or no one would want to play them if you knew the outcome was rigged.

    Infamous, if you like playing this game even if it is just for fun, just pay the nominal fee to get rid of the ads. its a one time fee and only a few dollars (a couple cups of coffee). (I’m cheap—so if I tell you to it’s worth the couple of bucks, it’s worth the couple of bucks!!!) I waited months before I finally did, but I wish I had done it sooner because the whole experience is just better. Your speed improves at least 25-50% and you don’t see the annoying banners below the puzzle or the ad after the puzzle. The game is definitely funner without the ads, regardless if you’re a casual player or competitive player.

    Other than that one time fee, you don’t have to spend money on this game to enjoy it or to do well in tournaments.

    I guess I’m hooked on this game and really enjoy it. I don’t take it seriously in the sense that I would have a tantrum when I lose etc..but I want to help others get as much out of this game as I do—that’s all I’m trying to do here—help people understand what is and isn’t fair play/cheating if I can.

    Keep having fun, Infamous, and thanks again for the insight.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    To clarify something the game people told me earlier about a sudden jump in score. They said:

    “Some devices may not be updated, therefore offline play is still an option.”

    I asked again about this, and this is what they said:

    “If you are offline now. The points don't count for any players.”

    So, my conclusion is sudden jumps in score are most likely due to the use of hints, either ethically or illegally obtained.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    SwedishChef, that seems to make the most sense—hacking to get unlimited hints and then just letting it go. I didn’t have a billion hints to play with—just a few orders of magnitude less with 49—but I was surprised by how quickly it solved the puzzle.

    Silverstar also drew attention to player “lol” on a “team” of 1 called “Colo-yellow spg” that has over 5 billion brillance. This is also a hack of some sort—the brilliance was not obtained through tournament play (you’ll notice the relatively small crown relative to the brilliance—there’s an analogy there but I won’t go further).

    So, just to clarify what I said about using hints to solve puzzles being part of the game—only, of course, if one gets those hints earnestly—through team helps, a daily prize, or through paying for them. Otherwise, if one steals them through computer hacking, the use of those stolen hints is cheating.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Rach1972, thanks for that insight. It seems the good players are in that range of 1000 words (stars) per hour—maybe the maximum being <1500 (only limited data for this though). So, I agree, to score close to 2000 on average presumably is using a lot of extras.

    As a test, I tried one puzzle using just hints in rapid succession (no rockets). The puzzle had 49 letters and 16 words—it took roughly 20 seconds to complete including the animation setting up the next puzzle. That 7000 words in 3 hours works out to roughly 2333 words per hour or 39 words per minute. So it is plausible a fast player also using a ton of hints might approach that score.

    However, that was 49 hints for just 16 words—so, to imagine someone doing this over multiple levels where the average ratio of letters to words is say at least 4 would require 20000-30000 hints to get 7000 words. Even if you say the player solved half the words (which would definitely slow the speed down), that is 10000-15000 hints. If they were using acquired coins (100 coins per hint), that would use 1 million-1.5 million coins!!!!!! One could be throwing in rockets, too, but they come with an animation that doesn’t make them necessarily faster.

    It is really hard to imagine this being possible or sustainable over an extended period of time (a few hours) unless one has an unlimited arsenal of hints.

    So, why?

    I don’t know. Maybe these people are super competitive and have to win at all costs; maybe these people just like messing with other people and causing tournament havoc because they can; maybe, maybe, maybe—does it matter in the end. The result is they wreck a tournament for at least 3 other people who would have placed.

    ....but technically speaking, if they are using hints it is not cheating since the game allows for that. Remember, the game developers make their money selling hint packages, so they are unlikely to limit them in a tournament. And where do you draw the line with hints? Personally, I don’t use hints at all now (that is why i didn’t mind wasting 49 of them on a silly test). So that person who beat me this weekend with that sudden surge in their points while I struggle for minutes on a word (“undo” 🙄) did they cheat me out of victory? (No!).

    Anyway—this is just a game; the hints and rockets make it more entertaining. I really can’t see them limiting hints in tournaments so we have to play accordingly. Fortunately, these really extreme point surges (>1500 words per hour) are uncommon, but that doesn’t make them any less discouraging for those affected.

    If they didn’t use hints and manipulated the score some other way, well, that’s just cheating! The only ones presumably who can sort that out are the game developers.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Cheryl, what was the rate of scoring, over what time period, and the final scores?

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    This is the explanation given by the game developers for a score that jumps quickly:

    “Some devices may not be updated, therefore offline play is still an option. Also, some players may purchase a significant amount of in-app items that help them advance quickly. That is most often the case when a score jumps quickly.”

    So, this just complicates things in sorting out a sudden jump in score. A sudden jump of 500 points when a player’s score hadn’t moved for an hour could just be an update in the scoring.

    7000 points in 3 hours—I don’t know still; even if one just used hints and rockets, the rockets go 5 letters at a time with animations, I don’t know what the maximum scoring rate is. That score though averages to close to 40 words per minute—I suppose it’s plausible using maximum assists with rockets and hints, maybe? 🤔

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Ghost, bre, & Bret; this is what I was told by PeoleFun:

    “We will look into the issue. We have cheat detection for tournaments. If a player is found to be cheating, they will be removed and receive no prize. Thanks for reporting it.”

    This was in response to a player with 500,000,000 brillance (not possible, needless to say).

    Ghost, those big jumps in score are suspicious. 7000 points in 3 hours goes beyond credible. Hopefully, the game cheat filters pick it up. I highly recommend you report this player to people fun for further assessment (send an email under “send us a message” on the main support page).

    I sometimes wonder if problems with internet connectivity account for sudden jumps in scoring—but what you describe sounds extreme and deserves further investigation.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, I think you’re probably right—but I did not want to make that assumption though since he clearly says level and each puzzle is clearly labelled as “Level”.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Eric hunt, how on earth are you averaging 200-250 per level—puzzle words vary from 5-10 words to maybe 20-30 words. So you’re getting 200+ bonus words on average per puzzle? Really? On puzzles with no 3 letter words? Do you use lists of words and just plug away? Do you do this from memory? I’m not here to judge, just to trying and understand this because these numbers (200-250 words per level) are so far outside my experience.

    Regardless, your rate of scoring is totally believable.

    The 17000 score is reasonable and your rate of scoring 1200-1800 words per hour is also within a top player (from what I infer from others—I’m not in that category).

    From your experience, what is the maximum words per hour at this game?

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, the midweek tournament is random—not all players get it and it doesn’t show up every week (so no one is taking advantage so to speak). It will just appear midweek for some players. For those who get it, they can augment their crown points and coins, but the rewards are half those of a weekend tournament. (Since the team format started, I’ve had a midweek tournament appear 2 times.)

    Some other games get offered midweek, too, but again, these are random and not everyone gets them.

    My understanding is that this is the game developer testing new formats on us.

    So, if you get one, you’re lucky, that’s all.

    Yeah, in the grand scheme of things, it is not fair since not everyone gets it. But there are potentially a lot of things “not fair” in this game (ie. not everyone plays without ads, not everyone has hints, not everyone gets free hints from a team, not everyone can afford to buy hint packages, not everyone plays the same level with same words during a tournament, etc.,.). By the sound of how well you play, though, I think you’re managing ok even without the midweek perk.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PPS. Ok, this was a typo, I really do know how to divide 500 into 2000—it should be “4 increments of 500”.

    Alas, my math credibility is shot...I think that’s the sound of the bell for my remedial math class again 🙄

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    PS I don’t know if a sudden jump by 2000 points after no activity for a while is a deliberate cheat or a possible computer glitch with internet connectivity and updating of the leader board. Regardless, the player presumably was playing during that time of “inactivity” and earned the points. Again, unless one knows more details of that player’s situation, I’d be wary of labelling it as outright cheating.

    In contrast, if a player’s score increases by 100’s or 1000’s of points repeatedly over a short duration (ie that same 2000 points was earned in 30 minutes with 5 increments of 500), that doesn’t seem plausible at all and would need investigating.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, thanks for the detailed explanation; this is a great example of how we all shouldn’t rush to judgement. I’m in awe of your words per hour and although I’ll never achieve that, there are people such as yourself who do.

    The most important part of your explanation is the rate of play. The 11k achieved over 28 hours.

    I would definitely be concerned if that 11k occurred in 2-3 hours or less, though, which is NOT the case here.

    Thanks again for the explanation; I think that helps us all understand where the boundaries are between solid fast gaming and cheating.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    The main usefulness of this forum is to at least get an understanding of what is and isn’t possible in this game. I don’t have all the answers, and I defer to more experienced players.

    I do know that some situations appear to be cheating when they are not. An experienced player can usually tell if something is not right. Just looking at an individual score out of context does not tell the whole story unless it is too extreme—but what is defined as extreme depends on your experience with the game.

    The best objective assessment is the real time rate of scoring in a tournament. The puzzles have to be solved one after the other. The puzzles’ point scores vary from one to the next. Again, if someone is repeatedly scoring >50 points on EVERY puzzle, then that’s just not possible in this game (if it is, someone explain it to me then). That requires looking at the player’s real time change in score from puzzle to puzzle based on the leader board.

    I just think we have to be careful before we start labelling everyone with a high score as a cheat—again, the rate of point scoring is the best way to do this.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, the game people at People Fun don’t read these forums.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Peter, not every big jump in scoring is a cheat. 11000 points over what period of time? If it’s 12 hours, that is plausible (some players can score over 1000 words per hour). Factor in the use of stored up hints, rockets, and it is plausible. (Also remember, your night is someone else’s day in this world.)

    I don’t know what the maximum words per hour is, but practically speaking it must be less than 1500 words per hour and probably less than that for any extended period of time (ie over a few days, probably less than 1000 words per hour for the tournament.). Some people are just fast. (If you are playing with ads still, people without ads are almost twice as fast)

    I agree, the score raises eyebrows. If large scores (I don’t know what the maximum point score for a puzzle is when one factors in bonus words, but from my experience, it is less than 50 points; so for sure > 100 points) just suddenly appear from that player if you are following the leader board closely then there is definitely something going on.

    PS. Do you know if the player in question has a degree in computer science or a diploma from the school of computer hacks? 🤔

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Deborah, not sure what happened there—can you give more details? The team helps aren’t connected to your tournament star points, and I’m don’t know how a teammate could alter your score.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    ...to be followed by my remedial English class...

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Sorry to disappoint Manco, but you and your team is way beyond my level of play(I’m a 400-500 wph player).

    Now if you excuse me, I have a remedial basic math class to attend...

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Craig—thanks!!! I got lost in all the zeros—(I originally came up with 27 years, but screwed up when I rechecked my answer—should have then triple checked the answer.

    Anyway, what I was also going to say when I first calculated the 27 years is: how old is the internet? We’re the game developers even born then? Was the player playing non stop straight out of the womb? Etc..,)

    Bottom line, these scores are so outside the norm that some sort of manipulation is at work.

    Thanks for double checking the math.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Silverstar, hard not to draw that conclusion either way, cheating or no cheating.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    A08, I realized I misinterpreted the numbers—100000 stars for a tournament; 1 billion brillance player brillance overall (I misinterpreted the latter as being for the tournament—which you would only know if you were tracking their brillance before and after the tournament).

    Regardless, assume the 1 billion brillance is correct and 100000 stars is correct. Let’s say the 100000 stars is their “average” score for a 3 day period. That roughly corresponds to. 300000 brillance (roughly a 3:1 relationship between brillance and words). So, that averages to about 100000 brillance per day. If they have an overall brillance of 1 billion, it would take roughly 1000 days to achieve—or put another way—2.7 years.

    How long has this game been around? Maybe the time is correct, but they would have to have been playing everyday at that pace for the last 2.7 years.

    Let’s assume that is true... then... whoever you are, you need help!!!! Let them win the weekend tournament, because they are so addicted to this game they are playing while getting up in the morning, while brushing their teeth (maybe they have teeth?), while eating, while taking bathroom breaks (okay, I’m guilty there once or twice), while going to bed, while in bed, while getting up in the morning...repeat for 2.7 years!!!!!!

    So is it still plausible—no.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    A08, anonymous, Katz: a billion brillance and 100000 stars is a total aberration

    The 100000 stars averages to 1886 words per hour over 53 hours—very difficult to achieve even as a maximum score. The best player on our team is under 900 words per hour; Mugsy Bar mentions 1600 words per hour range. But this 1886 is an average score—seems very, extreme.

    But this whole scoring falls apart with the billion brillance. That brillance score is totally discordant with the star score making this a total aberration. Even if A08 made a typo and meant a million brillance—that is still a discordant brillance score compared to the star count.

    So, if this score really occurred, the score is such an aberration on so many levels that it is just not plausible without some sort of cheat/computer hack/manipulation.

    PS. It wasn’t me who got that score since I keep getting stuck on the word ”tree”—🙄

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    A08, if true, don’t know how, but one can safely assume it’s a computer hack/manipulation/obvious cheat—their fingers weren’t exactly swiping letters while they enjoyed the background music and imagery but up to more nefarious deeds!!!

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, thanks for the tip. My goal, though, is to play these tournaments and win without hints. I only use hints now as a last resort.

    PS the internet connection is better now; that’s just how it was when I started. All is good now.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous (sane one, insane one, I just don’t know anymore—I’m going insane), I just started playing the game and could play offline. That’s all there is to it.

    You kind of have to just go with the flow with this game because the the instructions are fleeting. Most of what I know about the game comes from exploring it with trial and error. Not so much to gain advantage, but to just figure out what the heck is going on.

    This game is kind of the Wild West when it comes to rules.

    Critical thinking and rational discussion is not personal; people can always agree to disagree. It never hurts to try and see things from the other person’s perspective.

    Good luck (without manipulations of course) with your your tournaments 😊

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous (the sane one), look, I agree and disagree.

    Agree: offline play is not enabled now, so any use (however obtained) is an unfair advantage and cheating

    Disagree: months ago offline mode allowed, therefore part of the game, therefore necessary to take into account with game strategy, therefore not cheating

    BUT I totally agree it used to the make game strategy all over the place

    When offline play was allowed, If one CHOSE not to get an insurmountable lead based in words per hour and NOT take into account that someone with no scoring on the leaderboard all day could dump 3000 points in the last minute—then you got beat. That other person STILL earned those 3000 points over the course of the day, so it was not cheating.

    Look, I feel your pain, man. I used to get burned too, but I tried to factor that uncertainty into my game strategy. Looking back, most of the point fluctuations would be a couple hundred points at a time as people went into and out of offline play if they were using it. The extreme case you describe did not happen often—but I see if you got burned that way enough to email them it would be a thorn in your side. Honestly, offline play for me was a very practical use of an expensive and slow internet connection.

    Again, any offline play is by manipulation now so it is therefore cheating.

    But the cheating concept is somewhat relative—someone with unlimited money buys unlimited rockets and blasts their way hundreds of points in the last hour—not cheating technically since there is no hint limit. People on teams with free team hints playing against solo players with no hints starting out—not cheating technically. I play with no hints, so if I’m playing you going back and forth at a certain predictable pace and you then use saved up rockets/hints on the last couple puzzles to win—did you cheat? (No, it’s part of the rules)

    Conclusion, if the game allows it in the rules it is not cheating.

    Thanks for the discussion and keep having fun playing the game, Anonymous (the sane one)

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, okay.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, the person playing in airplane mode when it was allowed is not a crook because they still had to solve the puzzles. When everyone is able to do this, it is not cheating.

    When one used to play that way, you never knew whether your score was good enough—so it made for unpredictable game play. And yes, it came down to the last tally of the scores. So the leaderboard during the game was indeed somewhat meaningless.

    I totally agree it is better not allowing that now for more predictable game play.

    We really are on the same page here.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Anonymous, maybe I wasn’t clear. When I first started playing the game, you could play offline. That’s how the game was. It was not cheating. It was a practical thing—it allowed one to still enjoy the game when you couldn’t be in a wifi spot.

    Then they changed it so you couldn’t because of what I said. Which is fine. Again, if everyone plays by the same rules it’s not cheating. If they allow offline play for everyone—it’s not cheating.

    I tried it just now to test whether what Larry van pelt said was true, because my understanding was you couldn’t. (I never play offline now so I have no idea whether what he says is currently true)

    I tried one round as a test and my score didn’t change—so I lose those points. I had to verify that first before I tell someone else that they might, for whatever software glitch or other, may be playing with an advantage.

    Anonymous, the game developers evolved the game as they how the airplane mode was being
    used.

    Just curious, were you playing then when it was allowed? Like I said, that’s when I started and that’s just how the game was back then. It was not cheating at the time, but, like you say, wasn’t logical for the leaderboard. Give the developers credit for improving the game for all those reasons.

    So chill my friend—for your info, I played and won my last tournament with no hints, just playing the game. I play because I enjoy solving the puzzles and get the greatest satisfaction when I can do it without hints.

    PS I have also not used a hint yet this weekend either.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    PS. I just played offline and my tournament score never changed. Larry van pelt, if you are truly able to do this still, the I think you do have an unfair advantage since not everyone can. If you have any integrity, knowing this now, you won’t play that way.

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    Tippytoes commented  · 

    Larry van pelt, the game used to allow that, but I think they fixed that now. When it was allowed, I never considered it cheating because everyone could do it. Regardless of whether you were playing online or offline, you still had to solve the puzzles. Scores used to fluctuate widely and were more unpredictable—but one adapted. I would play that way when I was away from wifi so I wouldn’t use my data.

    Too many players got burned by people literally on a long airplane trip playing for hours offline and then coming online out of nowhere with thousands of points.

    Now that they have fixed it (which is a good idea—but there goes my data!), any sudden jump of hundreds of points in a minute is a data dump of some kind and should be considered cheating until proven otherwise.

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    From what you describe, you may be confusing individual star tournament winners with the team tournament winners.

    The team tournament is separate from the individual tournaments. The team tournament score is based on the total score of everyone on a team. Teams play against 49 other teams.

    Each player on a team plays in their own star tournament against other 99 other players. The same score used for the star tournament is used as the player’s contribution to their team’s score.

    So, a player could win their own star tournament, but that player’s team could lose their team tournament, which sounds like the case here.

    (Conversely, a player could lose their individual star tournament, but their team could win the team tournament.)

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